[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The point I was making when I mentioned the Falklands is that we went to the UN and asked for assistance, and even our closest allies told as to **** off, you are on your own. That was an invasion of sovereign British territory, and no-one gave a damn. The point being, you can't rely on anyone else to have your back in a war situation, you may get help and assistance, you may not. Thats why you need all the protective measures you can get.

Absolutely,I agree with you. I see both points.
That is why I said I am open to keeping nuclear weapons,I just can see the arguments on the other side too.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely,I agree with you. I see both points.
That is why I said I am open to keeping nuclear weapons,I just can see the arguments on the other side too.

I am beginning to wonder how we ever came to argue Joey - apart from the EU we're not THAT different really.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I am beginning to wonder how we ever came to argue Joey - apart from the EU we're not THAT different really.

I think overall we have tried to see each others point too Kirk.

Arguing does become part of debate, I have never seen so much dispute for instance between some of my family like I have on this election.
That is because the majority of them are moving from their usual bases as to political support and heading off in all directions.

The real truth is in essence,all parties have some good people and policies and bad people and policies, if all the good in all parties were put together as to their policies and they all worked together, really for the good of the nation, then problems would be fewer and fewer.

It may make for more boring politics but the UK and its citizens would in fact really be the winners for once.

I respect your views Kirk even when they are completely opposite to what I look for in a political party and its policies.