[JoshBB]

One woman being homophobic shouldn't mean the show being shut down. She should be removed for being that prejudiced but the show appeals to many and for that reason it should stay.

[kirklancaster]

In a word - 'YES' - for me.

[Jake.]

She listens to her son having sex, I really wouldn't take anything she says seriously

[Ammi]

..no I don't think so, not unless the ratings say so...I have theory anyway about Loose Women from the few times I've watched it...obviously they discuss controversial stuff and I think maybe are 'told' in a way what their views will be or know that they have to give alternative views otherwise it would just be...yeah I agree, agree, agree..etc and how would that spark conversations/discussion etc...I just don't believe with 4 or 5 ladies or how many there are that they never seem to have the same view on anything whatever the topic is because I think that would happen with some things...so they're not always so much putting forward their opinions but just giving different slants to things etc...and yeah, they'll know that sometimes things they say are going to get them 'hated' but also controversy being the fame of the day, they'll probably be ok-ish with that...maybe they all draw straws to decide what stance they will have on a topic that day..Colleen, today with the gays and the cakes, you will say that they can't have a piece of that cake, we've given them marriage, what more do they want for goodness sake, how much more can we take from these gay people...etc/my theory....99.9% of my theories are usually wrong...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no I don't think so, not unless the ratings say so...I have theory anyway about Loose Women from the few times I've watched it...obviously they discuss controversial stuff and I think maybe are 'told' in a way what their views will be or know that they have to give alternative views otherwise it would just be...yeah I agree, agree, agree..etc and how would that spark conversations/discussion etc...I just don't believe with 4 or 5 ladies or how many there are that they never seem to have the same view on anything whatever the topic is because I think that would happen with some things...so they're not always so much putting forward their opinions but just giving different slants to things etc...and yeah, they'll know that sometimes things they say are going to get them 'hated' but also controversy being the fame of the day, they'll probably be ok-ish with that...maybe they all draw straws to decide what stance they will have on a topic that day..Colleen, today with the gays and the cakes, you will say that they can't have a piece of that cake, we've given them marriage, what more do they want for goodness sake, how much more can we take from these gay people...etc/my theory....99.9% of my theories are usually wrong...

Not at all Ammi - you are one of my favourite posters for a very good reason (well more than one really) You are always relevant and manage to get valid points across without extremism or the resultant controversy which ensues from such extremism.

It's a very real 'art form' Ammi - one I wish that I was master of.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no I don't think so, not unless the ratings say so...I have theory anyway about Loose Women from the few times I've watched it...obviously they discuss controversial stuff and I think maybe are 'told' in a way what their views will be or know that they have to give alternative views otherwise it would just be...yeah I agree, agree, agree..etc and how would that spark conversations/discussion etc...I just don't believe with 4 or 5 ladies or how many there are that they never seem to have the same view on anything whatever the topic is because I think that would happen with some things...so they're not always so much putting forward their opinions but just giving different slants to things etc...and yeah, they'll know that sometimes things they say are going to get them 'hated' but also controversy being the fame of the day, they'll probably be ok-ish with that...maybe they all draw straws to decide what stance they will have on a topic that day..Colleen, today with the gays and the cakes, you will say that they can't have a piece of that cake, we've given them marriage, what more do they want for goodness sake, how much more can we take from these gay people...etc/my theory....99.9% of my theories are usually wrong...

Absolutely, they are there to have diverse views and cause controversy, you can imagine Coleen in the pre meeting agreeing to take that stance and knowing the flak she would get, if no one is talking about the show, the ratings drop, the show is cleverly made to give it a Mumsy coffeee table chat feel but alot of effort goes into making it look like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What if some ISIS members are gay?





I think Ireland has the right to bear arms against this ISIS invasion or indeed an invasion by THE GAYS

I heard the other day that a group of The Gays threw a man off a roof for being isis

when will we stop the gays from taking us over

one day we will all be gay if we dont act NOW

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What if some ISIS members are gay?





I think Ireland has the right to bear arms against this ISIS invasion or indeed an invasion by THE GAYS

I heard the other day that a group of The Gays threw a man off a roof for being isis

when will we stop the gays from taking us over

one day we will all be gay if we dont act NOW

My jaws are HURTING from laughing LT FFS.

[user104658]

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

I disagree with that, refusing to put a slogan supporting a terrorist group is not discrimination against terrorist groups, since they're .....a terrorist group lol in fact the person asking for that message should probably be reported and questioned about their links to that terrorist group

[arista]

"Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle "

No TS alot of men work on that team
they want to keep their jobs

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What if some ISIS members are gay?





I think Ireland has the right to bear arms against this ISIS invasion or indeed an invasion by THE GAYS

I heard the other day that a group of The Gays threw a man off a roof for being isis

when will we stop the gays from taking us over

one day we will all be gay if we dont act NOW

they will be in the closet , though

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree with that, refusing to put a slogan supporting a terrorist group is not discrimination against terrorist groups, since they're .....a terrorist group lol in fact the person asking for that message should probably be reported and questioned about their links to that terrorist group

It's not about whether or not it's discrimination though, and I'm not saying they shouldn't lose business, just that the consequences should be "natural" - i.e. Tell everyone how small minded and prejudiced they are and they will lose business, one would hope.

All I'm saying is that you can't legislate prejudice out of existence. If it was illegal for them to refuse to make the gay wedding cake, sure, they would make the cake, but would they be any less prejudiced? Would you WANT your cake to be made by people who are against something so fundamental about you, just because the law says they "have to"? It's just a mess.

Also, how is it feasible? You can't make legislation that says a business has go accept every single job. What if a cake shop has a load of other wedding booked for the same week and simply has to turn someone away? That has to be an option. You can't tell a private business that they must accept every contract that comes their way, it's just not feasible. And so, all you will end up with is people still turning away business for prejudiced reasons but just not being honest about them, and just saying that they aren't available at that time / can't do it for some other reason.

Better that people know their ****ty reasons in my opinion, so that they can then commit to NEVER using them.

[Vanessa]

i don't watch it anymore. It has gone stale for me. The only one i like in there is Janet Street Porter.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

"Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle "

No TS alot of men work on that team
they want to keep their jobs

It would be replaced with another daytime TV show no doubt, so all of the behind the scenes people would have new positions to apply for. It would just be the menopausal alcoholic old bats we'd be getting rid of.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It would be replaced with another daytime TV show no doubt, so all of the behind the scenes people would have new positions to apply for. It would just be the menopausal alcoholic old bats we'd be getting rid of.

Yes but they say this format does well.

They have to keep changing the women
and deleting the rotten ones

[Liam-]

It should be replaced by a daytime tv show with a panel of men talking about how awful women are, see how long that would last on air.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It should be replaced by a daytime tv show with a panel of men talking about how awful women are, see how long that would last on air.

They could just film one of my calls to me old mate Jeremy is they want that type of action

[Z]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

Yeah I think this too - the guy has every right to be offended and upset but you can't make them sell him a cake for a gay wedding, just as much as you can't make them sell an ISIS cake or a cake promoting cock fighting or wearing fur or having abortions or any number of social issues that people have varied opinions on.

[waterhog]

this show started off good - and now it has gone on like a long over due marriage that should have ended in divorce years ago.

i might do a poem on it but i have done to many poems on loose woman so i best stick to bb.

[T*]

they should basically change the title to 'chubby women craving attention and love'

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not about whether or not it's discrimination though, and I'm not saying they shouldn't lose business, just that the consequences should be "natural" - i.e. Tell everyone how small minded and prejudiced they are and they will lose business, one would hope.

All I'm saying is that you can't legislate prejudice out of existence. If it was illegal for them to refuse to make the gay wedding cake, sure, they would make the cake, but would they be any less prejudiced? Would you WANT your cake to be made by people who are against something so fundamental about you, just because the law says they "have to"? It's just a mess.

Also, how is it feasible? You can't make legislation that says a business has go accept every single job. What if a cake shop has a load of other wedding booked for the same week and simply has to turn someone away? That has to be an option. You can't tell a private business that they must accept every contract that comes their way, it's just not feasible. And so, all you will end up with is people still turning away business for prejudiced reasons but just not being honest about them, and just saying that they aren't available at that time / can't do it for some other reason.

Better that people know their ****ty reasons in my opinion, so that they can then commit to NEVER using them.

Common sense post of the week for me TS.

[the truth]

the irony is the ONLY prejudice on that show is against heterosexual men, but no one says anything about that in this male hating country

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not about whether or not it's discrimination though, and I'm not saying they shouldn't lose business, just that the consequences should be "natural" - i.e. Tell everyone how small minded and prejudiced they are and they will lose business, one would hope.

All I'm saying is that you can't legislate prejudice out of existence. If it was illegal for them to refuse to make the gay wedding cake, sure, they would make the cake, but would they be any less prejudiced? Would you WANT your cake to be made by people who are against something so fundamental about you, just because the law says they "have to"? It's just a mess.

Also, how is it feasible? You can't make legislation that says a business has go accept every single job. What if a cake shop has a load of other wedding booked for the same week and simply has to turn someone away? That has to be an option. You can't tell a private business that they must accept every contract that comes their way, it's just not feasible. And so, all you will end up with is people still turning away business for prejudiced reasons but just not being honest about them, and just saying that they aren't available at that time / can't do it for some other reason.

Better that people know their ****ty reasons in my opinion, so that they can then commit to NEVER using them.

agreed..the judge was probably a hetro male hating feminsits too , trying to endear herself to the gay community. her rationale was insane and if applied across society would create anarchy...I wonder if these activists will be demanded pork and such like at muslim take aways and jewish food places against their religious views too? the business had every right to say no

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Tøm

they should basically change the title to 'chubby women craving attention and love'

Don't let Jamelia hear you call her chubby she'll ban herself form every clothes shop except evans :/