[arista]

Bastards ! thats no way to speak to Kizzy.



[In an impromptu speech to
local Labour Party members
in Battersea, South London,
one of the angry attacks
Mr Khan made on the
public was: “Voters are b*****ds”.
The former shadow justice
secretary’s bombshell remark
angered listening party activists.]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-bastards.html



Feck You Khan - You are Pathetic

[joeysteele]

Extraordinary statement,that is 'if' it is the case,it is as printed.

[Kizzy]

I've bee called worse
I heard dave effing and jeffing during the election... big deal he swore, it's an emotive subject the future of the country isn't it?

[MTVN]

Sounds like an ill judged joke to me, probably didn't think it would go beyond the Labour gathering

[bots]

I was actually quite stunned on election night the way so many of the labour MP's stuck their head in the sand, they showed a complete lack of understanding of reality. Neil Kinnock for example called the voters deluded. While Ashdown made a fool of himself in the predictions stakes, I think party supporters can be forgiven for being blinkered in that respect, but I can't honestly remember an election previously where the losing parties criticised the will of the people. This seems to be a continuation of the same mind set, and I hope its stamped out now as it does democracy no favours at all.

[Kizzy]

The people WERE deluded though :/
Everyday there are things coming out that were somehow suppressed before the election which could have had an impact on the way the electorate voted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

well on his return from Ibiza failed leader Ed called labour voters lazy


Its a party in deep crisis

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well on his return from Ibiza failed leader Ed called labour voters lazy


Its a party in deep crisis

Ed who?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Ed who?

[Pete.]

messss

[MTVN]

The Labour intelligentsia are not happy that the proles were too blind to obey Miliband's vanguard

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The Labour intelligentsia are not happy that the proles were too blind to obey Miliband's vanguard

Damn straight!

[empire]

it show's that those mps are paid to much, to talk alot of crap, maybe it is time that the party get rid of useless, mps that lie their way through the voters,

[kirklancaster]

Seems like UKIP are not the only party to have members who are guilty of 'operating mouth without engaging brain' - though we have yet to witness a backlash as widespread or passionate as in UKIP examples.

This cannot be anything to do with WHO controls the extensive media propaganda machine though - Can it?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Seems like UKIP are not the only party to have members who are guilty of 'operating mouth without engaging brain' - though we have yet to witness a backlash as widespread or passionate as in UKIP examples.

This cannot be anything to do with WHO controls the extensive media propaganda machine though - Can it?

I agree there, all parties have their loose cannons and people with ill advised or ill termed comments.

Gordon Brown stands almost head and shoulders above all of them for his 'bigot' rant as to the Rochdale Labour voter.

That is the 'Mother of them all' for me,especially in an election campaign and from a Prime Minister too.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree there, all parties have their loose cannons and people with ill advised or ill termed comments.

Gordon Brown stands almost head and shoulders above all of them for his 'bigot' rant as to the Rochdale Labour voter.

That is the 'Mother of them all' for me,especially in an election campaign and from a Prime Minister too.

I also agree with your Gordon Brown remarks Joey. These 'incidents' - in ALL parties - actually make me wonder sometimes just if there are covert 'anti-party' members who are actually TRYING to sabotage their own party's prospects.

I mean, in some particular examples, the 'gaffe' is so PATENTLY going to be captured and made public, that it's beyond comprehension that it WAS committed without 'malice aforethought'.

I just wish they would ALL just become more honest, concentrate MORE on straightforward policy rather than assassinating other politicians - whether from INSIDE or OUTSIDE their own parties - and ALL stop lying.

Perhaps then, the rest of us lesser mortals will not only be more prone to follow their example, but also be able to make up our political minds based PURELY on POLICY and TRUTH rather than propaganda, spin and deception.

I am certain that when it comes down to it - whether Tory, Labour, Lib-Dem or UKIP - that ALL we ALL really desire, is what is BEST for this country and its people.

Realising those desires is not easy with the state of politics being what it has descended to.

[Kizzy]

I agreed with Brown and his comment was justified for me, she was being a bigot.
I also agree that the greasy con dems got away with effectively rigging the election with their stooges at hustings, plants at TV debates, invented 'lists' of supporters and media leaks of misinformation all fueling the negative propaganda media machine.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I also agree with your Gordon Brown remarks Joey. These 'incidents' - in ALL parties - actually make me wonder sometimes just if there are covert 'anti-party' members who are actually TRYING to sabotage their own party's prospects.

I mean, in some particular examples, the 'gaffe' is so PATENTLY going to be captured and made public, that it's beyond comprehension that it WAS committed without 'malice aforethought'.

I just wish they would ALL just become more honest, concentrate MORE on straightforward policy rather than assassinating other politicians - whether from INSIDE or OUTSIDE their own parties - and ALL stop lying.

Perhaps then, the rest of us lesser mortals will not only be more prone to follow their example, but also be able to make up our political minds based PURELY on POLICY and TRUTH rather than propaganda, spin and deception.

I am certain that when it comes down to it - whether Tory, Labour, Lib-Dem or UKIP - that ALL we ALL really desire, is what is BEST for this country and its people.

Realising those desires is not easy with the state of politics being what it has descended to.

That is all true Kirk,I know too in addition to the opposing parties always trying to dig something out or seize on anything someone from another party may say that could be or is controversial.

You have too,those within the support elements of a party and attached to it, who have their own agendas and how they would like things to be,who then also look for any way to 'highlight' controversial comments or incidents to achieve the changes they want.

Sadly,politicians rarely know when to really keep their mouths shut and take more care.
There are far more than enough incidents of things getting into the media that needn't have been, had they just kept some of their thoughts to themselves.