[andybigbro]

Did u prefer BB16 before 4in4out or after it ?

[Lostie!]

Before.

[mrflibble]

Before, they took them out at the most crucial stage and now it's like everyone is underdeveloped and the whole thing is a mess. If I didn't have to finish everything I started I would've stopped watching long ago.

[LukeB]

before

[Visage]

After.


I can't even remember anything from Keiran, Harriet wasn't that interesting, the twins spent too much time in front of the mirror.

Only housemate with any potential was Sarah and even she started to settle in and just go with the flow.

I love how manic it is in there now. I don't want to watch a bunch of people all getting on, I want what we have now.

[zakman440]

Before, without a shadow of a doubt.

[Mike]

Before the twist. They have tampered with things so much since then that it's just got messy. All for excitement but not manipulation with it.

[Visage]

It's a shame so many people are constantly missing the first four weeks. I honestly don't care about those we lost, I'm having such a great time with the show right now.

[Will.]

Wasn't everyone complaining how boring it was before 4 in 4 out

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

Wasn't everyone complaining how boring it was before 4 in 4 out

I can't remember who but I do remember a lot complaining about it being boring.

It's difficult, because when they bring an old task back, like 'ignore what is happening around you' we get complaints that BB can't come up with fresh ideas and when we get a new task that hasn't been done before we get 'This is rubbish, why do they keep trying to change how BB should run?"

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Visage

After.

I can't even remember anything from Keiran, Harriet wasn't that interesting, the twins spent too much time in front of the mirror.

Only housemate with any potential was Sarah and even she started to settle in and just go with the flow.

I love how manic it is in there now. I don't want to watch a bunch of people all getting on, I want what we have now.

[mrmattybeck1]

I prefer it before I liked it when they were all getting along

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Visage

After.


I can't even remember anything from Keiran, Harriet wasn't that interesting, the twins spent too much time in front of the mirror.

Only housemate with any potential was Sarah and even she started to settle in and just go with the flow.

I love how manic it is in there now. I don't want to watch a bunch of people all getting on, I want what we have now.

But that isn't that we had prior to the twist anyway.

[joeysteele]

Probably on balance before.
I would have liked to see how the series progressed,although I am glad Marc went in, had he been in from the start, then definitely, no doubt 'before 4 in 4 out' in that case.

[bots]

it was a bore fest before the 4 in 4 out twist.I think the cast are the worst BB has ever had

[VanessaFeltz.]

Before the launch tbh

[Amy Jade]

Before.

I liked all 5 who were evicted wheras the only person out of the swaps I like is Harry and I am dead against plants being in the house sent to cause fake drama which is why Marc was sent in.

[Josy]

After

[Withano]

Its just been a gradual decline from start to now but I can't stop watching, I'm too far in.

Defo not gonna watch next year anyway. I gave this one a go because the cast wasn't as bad as BB15 but the cast wasn't the biggest problem, the production was. They've took the rules and obliterated them, it's not a game anymore.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But that isn't that we had prior to the twist anyway.

Do you mean like the debate when Danny & Harriet had that big argument?

Then they made up the same day.

Or when the Amy lost it with another housemate and then they made up the same day?

I know feathers started to ruffle and we saw some potential with the housemates, but they kept all apologising to each other and in some cases they were saying just go with the arguments and we can make up after whatever task.

One of them even commented that BB won't beat them.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Before.

I liked all 5 who were evicted wheras the only person out of the swaps I like is Harry and I am dead against plants being in the house sent to cause fake drama which is why Marc was sent in.

[ebandit]

rather dull before.............complete mess after

one takes ones pick.................

Mark L

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Visage

Do you mean like the debate when Danny & Harriet had that big argument?

Then they made up the same day.

Or when the Amy lost it with another housemate and then they made up the same day?

I know feathers started to ruffle and we saw some potential with the housemates, but they kept all apologising to each other and in some cases they were saying just go with the arguments and we can make up after whatever task.

One of them even commented that BB won't beat them.

I don't remember Jade's feuds with the twins and Eileen being resolved in a day.

And there weren't arguments on a daily basis ... so? I enjoy drama in BB, but not just for the sake of it. People act like arguments is BB's sole purpose now.

Regardless, this "Everyone got along constantly / there was no drama" thing is a myth, IMO.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't remember Jade's feuds with the twins and Eileen being resolved in a day.

And there weren't arguments on a daily basis ... so? I enjoy drama in BB, but not just for the sake of it. People act like arguments is BB's sole purpose now.

Regardless, this "Everyone got along constantly / there was no drama" thing is a myth, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I love the arguments, it's what gets my blood going. I want to be angry at Marc, I want to hate Helen, but I also enjoy the fun times too. I loved the task where teddy bears were making Eileen scream, I loved seeing Amy & Jade team together (after their bust up) in the time/clock task.

Yes there were potential with the original four weeks, yes there was arguments simmering between Jade & Eileen. I'm not completely writing off the first four weeks, I just think this year has been at its best since the 4 in 4 out.

I also believe the originals were making it harder for BB to create drama and that's fine to a point, but overall I want the drama more.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Visage

Don't get me wrong, I love the arguments, it's what gets my blood going. I want to be angry at Marc, I want to hate Helen, but I also enjoy the fun times too. I loved the task where teddy bears were making Eileen scream, I loved seeing Amy & Jade team together (after their bust up) in the time/clock task.

Yes there were potential with the original four weeks, yes there was arguments simmering between Jade & Eileen. I'm not completely writing off the first four weeks, I just think this year has been at its best since the 4 in 4 out.

I also believe the originals were making it harder for BB to create drama and that's fine to a point, but overall I want the drama more.

I do get what you mean, the drama has definitely increased since 4 In, 4 Out and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy it. I guess my gripe with the quad is the what ifs in terms of how it might have progressed had they left it to develop naturally.

I'm enjoying the show itself in terms of the dynamics etc, I think it's really entertaining atm. What I'm not liking is the increasingly-erratic twists, which to be fair is an issue of it's own rather than a by-product of the quadruple, I suppose I just feel nostalgic for the earlier weeks before the meddling went into overdrive.