[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Firegazer

but he's fat

Yes, he is fat and so is Chloe so she gets equal treatment. She can suck it up like Jack.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Yes, he is fat and so is Chloe so she gets equal treatment. She can suck it up like Jack.

You're lovely (:

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

Well you're actually wrong there. Fat isn't an objective term. It's very much subjective, based on the body types you're surrounded with. Overweight has a strict definition, Obese has a definition but fat does not. I don't think I'd call either of the two fat myself, at most a bit chubby, but fat doesn't come with guidelines. It is an opinion.

A sad day when you're actively justifying bullying.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A sad day when you're actively justifying bullying.

When did they say that?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

It is wrong, as is everybody on here calling Jack disgusting names for his weight for the past 6 weeks. Him being male does not excuse peoples behaviour.

This.

The hypocrisy of some of the posts on here is flabbergasting.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

he has an opinion as everyone has

He insults peoples physical appearance and you excuse that as his "opinion" really? So there's no such thing as bullying in the playground anymore eh? Just a bunch of kids with opinions?

[smudgie]

For somebody so body critical he obviously doesn't look in the mirror.

[bots]

drawing attention to someone's physical differences is demeaning whether it is truthful or not. I wish BB would allow the recipients to respond as they would in the real world just once or twice. When the perpetrator ends up with a thick lip once or twice, it would soon put a stop to this, i'm just being honest and telling it like it is horse ****.

[Vanessa]

he's a twat and i hate him so much!

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by sampvt

definition of fat is overweight and they both are.

If they are Marc must be too.Proving any weight /height /age ratio on a chart can be wrong.

[samanthacurtis]

Didn't Cristian call jack fat last night? Whether jack is big or not i dont agree with anyone being called fat.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by samanthacurtis

Didn't Cristian call jack fat last night? Whether jack is big or not i dont agree with anyone being called fat.

They're friends. I don't think he meant it in a bad way.

[samanthacurtis]

Doesn't matter.

[Ellen]

We can all say things that may upset people from time to time but if someone tells you that it bothers them then you shut up.

I dont know if Chloe or Sam have called themselves fat or not and Marc thinks its ok because they do he can but like i say, if they have have got upset by it he should have the sense not to keep repeating it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ellen

We can all say things that may upset people from time to time but if someone tells you that it bothers them then you shut up.

I dont know if Chloe or Sam have called themselves fat or not and Marc thinks its ok because they do he can but like i say, if they have have got upset by it he should have the sense not to keep repeating it.

True. And i have seen posters here calling Jack fat all the time.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He insults peoples physical appearance and you excuse that as his "opinion" really? So there's no such thing as bullying in the playground anymore eh? Just a bunch of kids with opinions?

Marc calls Chloe fat, Brian calls Helen pond scum. One is funny one is terribly insulting.......can you tell me which is which please. I cant make my mind up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Marc calls Chloe fat, Brian calls Helen pond scum. One is funny one is terribly insulting.......can you tell me which is which please. I cant make my mind up.

Both are pretty insulting

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Both are pretty insulting

I agree, both are awful, but they are both opinions, yet I am wrong in saying so. I don't get that analogy.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I agree, both are awful, but they are both opinions, yet I am wrong in saying so. I don't get that analogy.

I don't understand why you've brought a comment Brian made into the thread to use as proof of something? Both are nasty unnecessary insults, I wouldn't call either "opinions" I would call them both insults or are we referring to insults as opinions now?

[Livia]

I have to ask... once again... how the hell is Chloe "fat"? Has being skinny become the norm now? With most women in the UK being a size 16 or over, I'd say Chloe is under the average. And to all the people who feel it's okay to call someone fat, imagine continual attention on your weakest, most vulnerable attribute - after all, you claim that it's only an opinion, how would you feel if everyone suddenly starts to voice theirs on what they perceive to be your faults?

[the truth]

what hope is there when the shows presenter, rylan, is a bigot himself calling jack pieface all the time

[bots]

Originally Posted by the truth

what hope is there when the shows presenter, rylan, is a bigot himself calling jack pieface all the time

rylan isn't the show presenter, Marcus is. rylan is the presenter of a cheap spin off that no-one watches anymore

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

what hope is there when the shows presenter, rylan, is a bigot himself calling jack pieface all the time

Why do you keep going on about Pieface? He uses that himself, he talked about it in his VT and said his friends call him it. If he didn't want people to use it, he wouldn't have told everyone about it? If Rylan was referring to him as fatty or whatever that would be different but he's not, why are you getting offended on Jacks behalf for something that doesn't offend him?

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A sad day when you're actively justifying bullying.

Hey, it's my mouth, don't put your words in there. At what point did I say it was ok to go around calling people fat? Shockingly you'll discover that I didn't.

All I said was that fat is not an objective term which it isn't. I was disputing your claim not hopping on the hate bandwagon. There is no strict threshold for "fat". Of course if you're so dead set on being right when you're not feel free to retreat into calling me a bully. Anyone with a modicum of sense will be able to understand what I said and the irrationality of your response.

[Brother Leon]

No different than the posts on here regarding Jack and other HMs.