[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

And yet Joel remains on a show that he thinks is morally wrong to have done that to Sam.

He is on BB series, there are many things that happen in a BB series that could be morally wrong.

Had he made an issue and left the house on this one,I can just see all the threads and comments deriding him as a quitter.

He did make a stand, he refused to vote and he could have got punished for that, however he 'stood solidly by his decision' not to do so,something not one of the others chose to do, showing how desperate they are for that prize fund to increase again.
No consideration at all for Sams feelings.

What happened in this disgraceful eviction of Sam last night, spoke,in my view, volumes negatively about all the others and said nothing at all as to Joel.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Well then he's going to be a good politician then, isn't he.

No, because that's not what a politician should be. It's what modern politicians have become and they will no doubt cause more riots in this country soon.

[vafunghoul]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

No, because that's not what a politician should be. It's what modern politicians have become and they will no doubt cause more riots in this country soon.

With all due respect, I get it. You despise Joel not so much for his gameplay but because his TYPE strikes a nerve.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

No, because that's not what a politician should be. It's what modern politicians have become and they will no doubt cause more riots in this country soon.

I was being sarcastic.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He is on BB series, there are many things that happen in a BB series that could be morally wrong.

Had he made an issue and left the house on this one,I can just see all the threads and comments deriding him as a quitter.

Nope. Why would anyone attack him for that?

He did make a stand, he refused to vote and he could have got punished for that

How? It was meant to be a joint decision. He was in no danger of getting into trouble whatsoever. Had BB got each person to stand up and vote and he refused then maybe...

however he 'stood solidly by his decision' not to do so,something not one of the others chose to do, showing how desperate they are for that prize fund to increase again.

No, what they showed consideration for were the rules of the show they signed up to. Joel on the other hand saw an opportunity to promote himself and smear the others who did do what they were being told to do. But when it comes down to taking his protest against the people ultimately responsible for what happened, he won't do a thing. Infact he will happily stay on their show and desperately try to win it himself.

What happened in this disgraceful eviction of Sam last night, spoke,in my view, volumes negatively about all the others and said nothing at all as to Joel.

How did it speak volumes about the others? They did what Zoe and Pav did last year. They did what they were asked to do by the production team. Now if you and Joel have a problem with that, then it is the production team you should take your complaints to. Instead, you just use it as an opportunity to slag off Danny and co. and promote Joel. As I said... Utterly self serving.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by vafunghoul

With all due respect, I get it. You despise Joel not so much for his gameplay but because his TYPE strikes a nerve.

Not really. I had previously praised Joel for independence of mind. But that was so obviously a slimeball move I went right off him altogether.

[vafunghoul]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Your funny.

*You're.

"Your" <--- possessive form

If you're going to attempt to mock someone's intelligence, you might want to use proper grammar.

[joeysteele]

BB said if they didn't make a decision there would be financial consequences, the others all voted to avoid that.

Joel was left sidelined by his stand, which I still applaud,therefore after the rest had complied but he did not, he could have found himself getting some punishment.

BB could not then touch the prize money as they made a decision and voted, Joel however did not,still making his stand against the eviction, so could have left himself open to some other punishment, no matter how daft,small or whatever.

[vafunghoul]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Not really. I had previously praised Joel for independence of mind. But that was so obviously a slimeball move I went right off him altogether.

So, you're basing this off his recent decisions which you find hypocritical? If that's the case, I can understand some of your disdain. I still feel he's been far less hypocritical and phoney than the rest. If anything, to me he's been the most consistent in gameplay and on a personal level towards others.

But of course, it's all subjective. We all have our bias.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by vafunghoul

*You're.

"Your" <--- possessive form

If you're going to attempt to mock someone's intelligence, you might want to use proper grammar.

How embarrassing for you. Did you really just do the grammar Nazi thing! eek. The cringe!

[vafunghoul]

Originally Posted by bobnot

How embarrassing for you. Did you really just do the grammar Nazi thing! eek

Quite the contrary.

[REDCROP]

Joel is, hands down, best game player in there and thank god theres one left....he's playing em all off one by one and they're all too stupid to be a match for him so they just spit and snarl and shout....and expose themselves for the exact same thing he's trying to expose them for...he's a really annoying little game player, like Marc was, and i love it....
The other game players are not in same league...Chloe's Victim card, Dannys Hero card...its just not clever enough

[REDCROP]

He's great...best one left in there now...go Joel

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I wonder what would have happened if they all refused to vote...

Then Big Brother would pick
as its Live.


And after that
all get Punished

[REDCROP]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

He's not smart, because they're all on to him. It's a shame the viewers aren't.

They were onto Marc too but they never got the last word , any of them..he controlled the lot of them and now Joel is doing the same...only other one as sharp is Nick...thats why they get along so well....the others are idiots apart from Christian

Danny, Chloe and Jack are really stupid....Dumb. Dumber and ( Erm, i dunno, i dunno, am i stupid ? i dunno.., can you learn me to be more cleverer like what you all am ? ) Danny

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by REDCROP

He's great...best one left in there now...go Joel

They do say that FM's champion HM' that mirror image their own personality. perish the thought and get well soon

[arista]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

No, because that's not what a politician should be. It's what modern politicians have become and they will no doubt cause more riots in this country soon.

Be Honest
after this
will he try for that gig?

[Shaun]

Remind me again why you didn't evict him against Eiqueen?

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by REDCROP

They were onto Marc too but they never got the last word , any of them..he controlled the lot of them

And got evicted the first chance the public had.

and now Joel is doing the same...only other one as sharp is Nick...thats why they get along so well....the others are idiots apart from Christian

Joel isn't playing them. He's playing the viewers. They all see through him.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by vafunghoul

So, you're basing this off his recent decisions which you find hypocritical? If that's the case, I can understand some of your disdain. I still feel he's been far less hypocritical and phoney than the rest. If anything, to me he's been the most consistent in gameplay and on a personal level towards others.

But of course, it's all subjective. We all have our bias.

I have no bias. I search for objective truth.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by sampvt

They do say that FM's champion HM' that mirror image their own personality. perish the thought and get well soon

Loads liked Helen and Perez! Helen had NO bigger champion than... Mind you, i wanted Hopkins to win!

[REDCROP]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

Theyre priming to give him the win I think...rent a crowd joel fans tonight between posters ant the bbots headers...he makes my skin crawl personally

Priming him to make him win ?...last I heard they were priming Danny ....oh no I forget they were priming Marc ....its all a complete load of bollox...Some people don't deserve BB and the work they put into to entertaining us all summer .....There are no conspiracies. ....its not MI5. ..and if you actually believe the rubbish you're saying then why on earth are you wasting your time watching the show ? Why don't all the bitter moaning people who think they're being conned just clear off and watch Judge Judy ...and leave those of us who have respect for the people who work so hard creating the show each week, to talk to intelligent people instead

[susie q]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

Joel....I refuse to vote....joel..guys tell me who to say...

Joel vote is carried for sam. Translation....you do the dirty work for me and ill deliver the news. Conclusion. ..if he didnt want to be part of it he should have wslked away... verdict..slimy coward

hes definitely a politician in the making, what a slime ball, cant stand Danny either.

[sampvt]

Joel is a mini version of the old winner Aaron, he must have studied him well.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Being fair, Joel was the very first to speak and he said right off that he was not voting in it at all.

Danny manipulated the votes in the end with his stance.

^ This

I don't usually like Joel but he went up in my estimations last night. What Joel said was totally spontaneous. He was the only person who was shocked at the unfairness of it.

Yes, Danny totally manipulated that vote, it was horrible to watch.