[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

To Stop Evil Gangs

A leopard print on the side of your head turns you into an evil gang?

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

A leopard print on the side of your head turns you into an evil gang?

Its against the Rules
Thats what matters

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

Its against the Rules
Thats what matters

Yes but the school set the rules. I don't understand why it's a rule in the first place, like it looks a bit tacky imo so that's why I personally wouldn't have it done on myself but that's no reason to enforce what other people can do.

Individual freedom

[Kizzy]

It's not a hairdo to have for school but if you can't have silly hair when you're a teen when can you? :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes but the school set the rules. I don't understand why it's a rule in the first place, like it looks a bit tacky imo so that's why I personally wouldn't have it done on myself but that's no reason to enforce what other people can do.

Individual freedom

Bollocks
She is Under Age

[MB.]

Nothing'll ever top this one

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I don't get why schools enforce haircut rules tbh

Surely sending her home is really disruptive to learning whereas a haircut is not

when i was at school i got pulled out of my lessons on many occasions due to having ear piercings up my ears. it was ridiculous to make me miss out lessons because of some tiny things in my ears that you couldn't even see when my hair was down.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes but the school set the rules. I don't understand why it's a rule in the first place, like it looks a bit tacky imo so that's why I personally wouldn't have it done on myself but that's no reason to enforce what other people can do.

Individual freedom

I am becoming as tired of seeing the words; "Individual Freedom" as I am the words; "Xenophobia" and "Racism".

In the West, we enjoy GREAT "Individual Freedom".

From waking to retiring, I go about my business and live my life without the Police, Security Services or any other 'Official Bodies' detaining me, stopping me or questioning me.

I am free to do ANYTHING I want to do - why I can even hang upside down naked in my bedroom and watch Maggie Thatcher speeches whilst whipping my bare backside with a vaseline covered kipper if I want to.

Among a myriad things I CANNOT do, is shout and bawl in a Public Library, play for my local football club whilst naked, or enter most restaurants and nightclubs in a dirty vest, underpants and training shoes.

Why? Because ALL these organisations have rules, rules which have been devised for specific and very relevant reasons, whether we can discern such reasons or not (though the reason for most rules are logically apparent) and if I or any other person want to be a member of such organisations, then we will be required to adhere to those rules.

Schools are organisations, and despite some of the inane views on here, 'uniformity' and 'conformity' within a school, are NOT indications of some sinister 'Government Program' to surreptitiously turn our children into 'mindless' State-Controlled 'Stepford Citizens', but rather a time-honoured method of instilling discipline and self-pride in them.

Death is the 'Great Leveller', but there are numerous 'Great Levellers' in life, and Snow is one of them. The shabbiest 'poor man's' garden looks no better or worse than the 'rich man's rolling manicured acres under a foot of snow, and School uniforms and other obligatory 'appearance' codes are other 'Great Levellers', because they make it more difficult to differentiate between poorer children and their wealthier counterparts.

Something such as the (ludicrous) hairstyle in the OP may seem trivial to some, but it is not. The child is receiving a FREE education - probably the greatest gift she will ever receive - and conformity to the rules of the organisation is NO price to pay for enjoying the benefits of 'membership'.

It is her inadequate and stupid parents to blame because they are displaying crass arrogance in defying the school rules.

Where does relaxing the perfectly sensible rules end? with rich kids turning up for school in Dolce and Gabbana D & G, clutching Prada or Louis Vuitton bags in lieu of satchels, and sporting Patek Phillipe watches?

Parents such as the mother in the Op's photo would be the very FIRST to complain about such 'inequality' if the above was the case.

I believe that all the schools I know of are generous in their tolerance of pupils 'individuality' to a degree, but schools are seats of learning NOT nightclubs or fashion shows and if parents desire their children to 'stand out', then studying hard in school and achieving the highest grades possible is the correct way to achieve this.

For those who still whinge about our 'Individual Freedom' within the UK, then with apologies to JFK and his; "Lass’ sie nach Berlin kommen” speech, I say "Let them come to North Korea, Saudi Arabia, or Syria", or anyone of a hundred other countries.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I am becoming as tired of seeing the words; "Individual Freedom" as I am the words; "Xenophobia" and "Racism".

In the West, we enjoy GREAT "Individual Freedom".

From waking to retiring, I go about my business and live my life without the Police, Security Services or any other 'Official Bodies' detaining me, stopping me or questioning me.

I am free to do ANYTHING I want to do - why I can even hang upside down naked in my bedroom and watch Maggie Thatcher speeches whilst whipping my bare backside with a vaseline covered kipper if I want to.

Among a myriad things I CANNOT do, is shout and bawl in a Public Library, play for my local football club whilst naked, or enter most restaurants and nightclubs in a dirty vest, underpants and training shoes.

Why? Because ALL these organisations have rules, rules which have been devised for specific and very relevant reasons, whether we can discern such reasons or not (though the reason for most rules are logically apparent) and if I or any other person want to be a member of such organisations, then we will be required to adhere to those rules.

Schools are organisations, and despite some of the inane views on here, 'uniformity' and 'conformity' within a school, are NOT indications of some sinister 'Government Program' to surreptitiously turn our children into 'mindless' State-Controlled 'Stepford Citizens', but rather a time-honoured method of instilling discipline and self-pride in them.

Death is the 'Great Leveller', but there are numerous 'Great Levellers' in life, and Snow is one of them. The shabbiest 'poor man's' garden looks no better or worse than the 'rich man's rolling manicured acres under a foot of snow, and School uniforms and other obligatory 'appearance' codes are other 'Great Levellers', because they make it more difficult to differentiate between poorer children and their wealthier counterparts.

Something such as the (ludicrous) hairstyle in the OP may seem trivial to some, but it is not. The child is receiving a FREE education - probably the greatest gift she will ever receive - and conformity to the rules of the organisation is NO price to pay for enjoying the benefits of 'membership'.

It is her inadequate and stupid parents to blame because they are displaying crass arrogance in defying the school rules.

Where does relaxing the perfectly sensible rules end? with rich kids turning up for school in Dolce and Gabbana D & G, clutching Prada or Louis Vuitton bags in lieu of satchels, and sporting Patek Phillipe watches?

Parents such as the mother in the Op's photo would be the very FIRST to complain about such 'inequality' if the above was the case.

I believe that all the schools I know of are generous in their tolerance of pupils 'individuality' to a degree, but schools are seats of learning NOT nightclubs or fashion shows and if parents desire their children to 'stand out', then studying hard in school and achieving the highest grades possible is the correct way to achieve this.

For those who still whinge about our 'Individual Freedom' within the UK, then with apologies to JFK and his; "Lass’ sie nach Berlin kommen” speech, I say "Let them come to North Korea, Saudi Arabia, or Syria", or anyone of a hundred other countries.

It's not inane (silly) to see a uniform as a tool of social control, it's what it was designed to be.

[AnnieK]

I'm with Kirk on the uniform bit being there to make children more equal in their clothing. I went to a private grammar school (on a scholarship) and my biggest dread of the year was non uniform day., so much do that I would often not attend that day. Being very aware of the lack of designer labels in my wardrobe against the other girls was, for a teenage girl, the ultimate embarrassment. I also got in trouble for piercings which I had to cover with plasters...all annoying but it was very much one rule for all thankfully. I'm not sure about hairstyles though....I was ginger so always stood out in a crowd anyway

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm with Kirk on the uniform bit being there to make children more equal in their clothing. I went to a private grammar school (on a scholarship) and my biggest dread of the year was non uniform day., so much do that I would often not attend that day. Being very aware of the lack of designer labels in my wardrobe against the other girls was, for a teenage girl, the ultimate embarrassment. I also got in trouble for piercings which I had to cover with plasters...all annoying but it was very much one rule for all thankfully. I'm not sure about hairstyles though....I was ginger so always stood out in a crowd anyway

Yeah my daughter always says she's glad they have a uniform so she doesn't have to stress out about what to wear every morning

[Kizzy]

Conformists will love it naturally, using earrings and hair as a tool for self expression has been attempted by teens in every generation it's nothing new... doesn't mean you're a chav or thick.

[Niamh.]

You say conformist I say self concious teenager

[Livia]

Her mother should be more concerned about her education than her stupid hairdo. If it's a school rule not to have outrageous hair - and it is pretty outrageous for a 13 year old child - presumably both the child and her mother are too stupid to understand the rules. Or maybe they're on some kind of crusade which is going to take up time meant for studying. Hopefully she can sort herself out, on with her education and get a job at the end of it and not end up a non-conformist "individual" living off the taxpayer... most of whom confirm to employers' rules and save their individualism for their own time.

[Kizzy]

Is that not the goal of conformists and nonconformists alike that they will succeed?
What is the point of these stories I wonder, are they to discourage any form of rebellion by routinely humiliating those who don't toe the line?

[Livia]

A couple of days ago on the "Cheshire boy sent home for his haircut"

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Pfft... Every year it's the same someones little angel is sent home because the of rules on uniform and/or appearance.

Today... not "someone's little angel" but a non-conformist all about rebellion.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Conformists will love it naturally, using earrings and hair as a tool for self expression has been attempted by teens in every generation it's nothing new... doesn't mean you're a chav or thick.

Massive opinion swing between two very similar threads there.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

A couple of days ago on the "Cheshire boy sent home for his haircut"



Today... not "someone's little angel" but a non-conformist all about rebellion.



Massive opinion swing between two very similar threads there.

Am I on trial here?....


I have said that neither style was suitable for school have I not?

I stand by the fact they are teens who can be rebellious or 'nonconformist' comments that suggest they are 'thick' chavs' or 'stupid' are rude and unnecessary.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Am I on trial here?....


I have said that neither style was suitable for school have I not?

I stand by the fact they are teens who can be rebellious or 'nonconformist' comments that suggest they are 'thick' chavs' or 'stupid' are rude and unnecessary.

It is ironic that when this girl chose to sport this ridiculous hairstyle in a desire to be 'non-conformist', she actually 'conformed' to most peoples' concept of what constitutes a 'chav' and someone who is 'stupid'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"nearly finished, a few more shots <click, click, click> now can we have one of you both looking angry?...<click>"

Bingo

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah my daughter always says she's glad they have a uniform so she doesn't have to stress out about what to wear every morning

It's true though when you think about it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It's true though when you think about it.

At that age especially because it's such an ordeal deciding on clothes I wouldn't fancy wearing a uniform at my age though

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Am I on trial here?....


I have said that neither style was suitable for school have I not?

I stand by the fact they are teens who can be rebellious or 'nonconformist' comments that suggest they are 'thick' chavs' or 'stupid' are rude and unnecessary.

On trial? You're touchy today.

It's just that but Cherie disagreed with that story and you disagreed with this one. So... I wondered if you'd like to clarify. Obviously not.

[Ammi]

...still not going well for her...I can't copy and paste atm so I'll just have to post the link for now...



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/girl-banne...l?vp=1#9qtzrVs

[kirklancaster]

From Ammi's link:

"Teenager Lauren McDowell was originally thrown out of her class because of her extreme hairdo, a decision that her mum declared a breach of her human rights"


Groan... FFS.... Not THAT phrase again.

"Yvonne claims she wasn’t aware of such a policy and her daughter’s hairstyle was a way to express herself after being bullied."

Yeah... And that 'orrible hairstyle is one sure way to help prevent being 'bullied'.

B.S.

[Ammi]

..thank you for that Kirk....tbh, I've only skimmed through the article myself/because time so I'll look properly later and for some reason I can't copy and paste this morning....you have a good day....