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Marsh. · 01-10-2015, 08:09 PM

Humans like sex. End of.

JoshBB · 01-10-2015, 08:19 PM

Yeah I don't understand why people think their sexuality is called into question when they date a transgender person

I would date a trans guy, providing they were a nice person and were relatively good looking. (i know that sounds shallow, but dont wanna get with no uglies)

MTVN · 01-10-2015, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Well of course they wouldn't, because the vast majority of people accept and subscribe to the gender binary that's become established in many societies around the world and have absolutely no idea of the differences between sex and gender, and that there are more than just 'men' and 'women'. That's not a slight on them personally, it's a societal issue but still. If you asked most bisexuals to define their sexuality I'd bet they'd say something along the lines of 'I like men and women', 'I'm attracted to both genders', etc etc. That's because they are, bi means two and so they are attracted to men and women.

And as I've just explained to DemolitionRed, trans people who are choosing to identify as, or have transitioned to become either a man or a woman are still on the gender binary and therefore bisexuals can be attracted to them. I never once said if you're bi you can't be attracted to trans people because that is nonsense, so long as those trans people's gender is binary.

What pansexuality refers to is the possible attraction to those whose gender is outside of the binary, and there are many trans people whom choose to live their life outside of it. It encompasses all gender identities, not just men and women, and as such is gender blind and based on strict personality led attraction.

Agree, I was making that point mainly to Will who was giving that as his reason for no longer identifying as bisexual

I don't know about the rest, it sounds quite snobbish to me and, like Firewire said, undermining of bisexuality, as though they are not capable of transgressing beyond a simplified notion of gender. It sounds as though pansexuality is being presented as a more developed and nuanced form of bisexuality. I don't think pansexuality is beyond the comprehension of most bisexuals; it's more that they don't feel it's a necessary distinction. People always like to talk about sexuality being a spectrum so I don't see why bisexuality can't occupy the whole hazy middle ground between gay and straight.

Ammi · 02-10-2015, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

I Sorry But Shaun
has more Experience in this
than you nippers

Feel The Force

..can we not please with the derogatory terms for young people on the forum..and referring to 'experience' as if it gives some kind of wisdom because it really doesn't...age doesn't give wisdom, only wisdom gives wisdom regardless of age...there are some very dumb people with much life experience who have been on this earth for many years...

..I've noticed this a lot in threads ..things like..come back when you're older or whatever/when you've been/when you've seen etc...and every one of us would probably hate being spoken to like that and have hated it when it's been done to us..it's extremely disrespectful...

kirklancaster · 02-10-2015, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

No because it's a poncey way of saying bisexual.

I could not agree more. What is this trend, this need to dissect everything now? Why the obsession to categorise and classify and label?

There are MALES and FEMALES - no matter what guise or whether one elects to be the other. To which one we are attracted, or whether we are attracted to both is all that matters, and we do not need some fancy new 'label' to identify us - whatever our choice.