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Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

Ugh I hate it when people define me by my job. Guess what? We're not in a court room. I don't need to be professional here because I'm not at work. Also you're the same as Niamh, putting words into my mouth.

Now that we've established your first claim - that you were a "defence attorney" - doesn't exist in English law, you now claim to be a solicitor, don't you? If that's the case you would not be doing your job in a court room. If you did you would be a barrister. You really do need to sort out your facts, Ashley.

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Now that we've established your first claim - that you were a "defence attorney" - doesn't exist in English law, you now claim to be a solicitor, don't you? If that's the case you would not be doing your job in a court room. If you did you would be a barrister. You really do need to sort out your facts, Ashley.

Here you go again, trying to make me look bad by bringing up my personal life. I've already told you I'm not discussing it with you so stop digging.

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

Here you go again, trying to make me look bad by bringing up my personal life. I've already told you I'm not discussing it with you so stop digging.

I'm not surprised you don't want to talk about your career with me, of all people. Although you've been okay talking about it up until I called you on it.

Also, do you have any comment on this post you made in June?:

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

I know. I study Law but I'm not a Lawyer.

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not surprised you don't want to talk about your career with me, of all people. Although you've been okay talking about it up until I called you on it.

Also, do you have any comment on this post you made in June?:

That was before I was ready to discuss my private life. I was scared of exactly this - people defining me by my job.

AnnieK · 07-10-2015, 06:22 PM

I'm sure the boy will be thoroughly checked by medical experts and his state of mind etc will be decided by experts who will then deduce his understanding of what he has done. We are in no way aware of the full facts of this case. It is an extremely sad story, not least for the family of the girl who died.

AnnieK · 07-10-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

That was before I was ready to discuss my private life. I was scared of exactly this - people defining me by my job.

I've not been around much....what is your job?

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

That was before I was ready to discuss my private life. I was scared of exactly this - people defining me by my job.

If that was the case you could have just kept quiet about it instead of telling everyone a variety of untruths which have made you look exactly what you are: not any kind of lawyer.

I've been here for five years, no one's ever defined me by my profession. But then, I know what I'm talking about.

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

If that was the case you could have just kept quiet about it instead of telling everyone a variety of untruths which have made you look exactly what you are: not any kind of lawyer.

I've been here for five years, no one's ever defined me by my profession. But then, I know what I'm talking about.

All you've done since you found out I was in the Law business is poke and prod, trying to push me down a bottomless pit, calling me a liar and attempting to make me look bad. What exactly is your problem? I'm still new to all of this. Instead of looking down at me and thinking of me as an amateur, then why don't you give me some tips and actually try to be a little more supportive instead of attacking me whenever you have the chance? I've worked so hard to get where I am and I'm not ready to be talked to like I'm a piece of **** by someone higher up the chain. I don't like being made to feel small and frankly, I'm finding your behaviour highly unjust.

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:31 PM

Now I suggest you put me on your ignore list, and get on with your life.

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

All you've done since you found out I was in the Law business is poke and prod, trying to push me down a bottomless pit, calling me a liar and attempting to make me look bad. What exactly is your problem? I'm still new to all of this. Instead of looking down at me and thinking of me as an amateur, then why don't you give me some tips and actually try to be a little more supportive instead of attacking me whenever you have the chance?

I've worked so hard to get where I am and I'm not ready to be talked to like I'm a piece of **** by someone higher up the chain. I don't like being made to feel small and frankly, I'm finding your behaviour highly unjust.

I have never attacked you Ashley, I've asked you pertinent questions about your claimed profession but you've not answered anything. You've never even asked me what my specialism is, that's highly unusual for another lawyer and how do you expect me to give you tips unless you know in which area of the law I work. In fact, you've never talked to me about it at all. You're apparently defending someone in court in December, regardless of the fact that it's not a solicitor's job to defend someone in court. And then there's the "defence attorney" thing, you never explained that. It's nonsense.

Frankly, I find your behaviour bordering on fantasy.

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

Now I suggest you put me on your ignore list, and get on with your life.

That's not your call, thanks.

DemolitionRed · 07-10-2015, 06:41 PM

In the USA I thought a practising lawyer was an attorney and is permitted to perform either the functions of a solicitor or a barrister?

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I have never attacked you Ashley, I've asked you pertinent questions about your claimed profession but you've not answered anything. You've never even asked me what my specialism is, that's highly unusual for another lawyer and how do you expect me to give you tips unless you know in which area of the law I work. In fact, you've never talked to me about it at all. You're apparently defending someone in court in December, regardless of the fact that it's not a solicitor's job to defend someone in court. And then there's the "defence attorney" thing, you never explained that. It's nonsense.

Frankly, I find your behaviour bordering on fantasy.

Did I not already ask you to stop pestering me?

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

In the USA I thought a practising lawyer was an attorney and is permitted to perform either the functions of a solicitor or a barrister?

Yeah, different in the UK though

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

In the USA I thought a practising lawyer was an attorney and is permitted to perform either the functions of a solicitor or a barrister?

Ashley claimed to be a defence attorney but is British and has never been to the USA.

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

Did I not already ask you to stop pestering me?

I will question you when you get it wrong, Ashley.

DemolitionRed · 07-10-2015, 06:48 PM

Ah Ok, I thought you had taken the bar in some state in America Ashley but that may of just been me presuming you had.

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Ah Ok, I thought you had taken the bar in some state in America Ashley but that may of just been me presuming you had.

No there's different terms for different countries but they all essentially mean the same thing. It's confusing, even I haven't got to grips with it all yet.

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:51 PM

It's not confusing at all.

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

It's not confusing at all.

Well, lucky you

Livia · 07-10-2015, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

Well, lucky you

Oh yeah, thanks. The more I studied the luckier I got.

Niamh. · 07-10-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

You're putting words in my mouth. I said he shouldn't get off SCOT FREE, not that he should be treated as an adult and locked up until the end of days. It's a bit hypocritical you saying that I should know better because of my job, when you're doing the exact same thing as a mod.

You actually said in your very first post that he should be locked up for life lol I'm doing what exactly as a mod?