[Kizzy]

Why the terrified gasps at the mere mention of a progressive social policy for the UK? would it mean an end to business and/or trade?... No :/

[the truth]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's silly to think that you could just resuscitate Labour's socialism of decades past and now apply it to today's world. Things have changed immeasurably and if socialism is to have any credibility it needs to adapt to that and show why it can still be relevant. This article from the New Statesman puts it well:

whats silly about it? how are our industries doing in this brave new world?

[Kizzy]

What do we do out of interest?... We don't make or build much.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

He's not stubborn, he's principled. And I agree with him - I wouldn't press the nuclear button either. It would kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions of innocent civilians.. and that would all be on your hands.

I agree, I also don't see why this decision should lie with only one man or woman either.

I could for myself say now, I would never want to and likely wouldn't press such a button.
Corbyn as PM couldn't do so anyway, even if he wanted to, without first getting the permission of the USA.

This is something that should have a committee to decide, one that involves military hierarchy, MPs of all Parties and Ministers and the PM.

There should have to be majority decision to allow the seeking to press the button from such a committee, and without same, then it could not even be explored.

There is no justifiable reason whatsoever in my view that a man or woman who had such strong principles as to not pressing the button themselves, That they should not be able to become PM of the UK and deal with all that is needed to lead and run the Country as to everything else.
Just as equally there should be no barrier to someone who would press the button becoming PM too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What do we do out of interest?... We don't make or build much.

I was in London Last Week
I have never sen so many Cranes
all over London


We a Booming


Building New Homes New Shops

Its Amazing

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

I was in London Last Week
I have never sen so many Cranes
all over London


We a Booming


Building New Homes New Shops

Its Amazing

What use are shops? you can't export shops...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What use are shops? you can't export shops...

Jessops

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What use are shops? you can't export shops...

We cannot even keep them open let alone export them Kizzy looking at all the empty store and shop buildings I have seen on my travels around the UK.

All very well building them, once they cripple business with high rates and energy charges then business just pulls out and we are left with an empty shell standing there.

[Kizzy]

Maybe he means these glitzy mega malls that are popping up everywhere, maybe that's the fate for the UK as the 'white rose centre' for the rest of the world?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't how, Josh... it's a hypothetical question. We may intercept the first missiles, there may be too many to continue to intercept and the only way to stop it would be to attack. I don't want anyone nuked... but why have a deterrent if the PM isn't prepared to use it in the defence of this country?

The bottom line for me is this: if Corbyn isn't prepared to carry out his duty to the full, then he has no place running for PM.

I know this:

Even the most hateful of bullies will NEVER attack someone is is likely to punch him back, and the better equipped to fight that the 'someone' is, then the more remote the likelyhood of him ever being attacked.

Bullies prey on the weak and vulnerable and DEFENCELESS.

As for nuclear war - the bomb has not been invented which could destroy an entire country, so it will be a case of multiple bombs, which is why it is so important to have a DETERRENT and a RETALIATORY capability.

Without it the words 'sitting' and 'ducks' should be employed.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

We cannot even keep them open let alone export them Kizzy looking at all the empty store and shop buildings I have seen on my travels around the UK.

All very well building them, once they cripple business with high rates and energy charges then business just pulls out and we are left with an empty shell standing there.

Stop Being So Negative. Shops change,
some zones Die as a Massive Tesco near
them is one one shop with it all.

I need to Fly you to China

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Stop Being So Negative. Shops change,
some zones Die as a Massive Tesco near
them one shop with it all.

I need to Fly you to China

Very easy to be negative when you go down the roads and streets I have and see all the empty buildings left to rot that were once thriving businesses and shops.
That in fact were peoples homes too.

Nothing positive really to say or see about that whatsoever in my view.

The odd swallow flying here and there in some places doesn't command a positive ongoing summer.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Very easy to be negative when you go down the roads and streets I have and see all the empty buildings left to rot that were once thriving businesses and shops.
That in fact were peoples homes too.

Nothing positive really to say or see about that whatsoever in my view.

The odd swallow flying here and there in some places doesn't command a positive ongoing summer.

Spend a Day In Central London

Just because a Zone is Dead
does not mean they are all like that


I must Fly you to China
to watch a Factory Close up

[arista]

FECK SAKE $ Aspiration



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Spend a Day In Central London

Just because a Zone is Dead
does not mean they are all like that


I must Fly you to China
to watch a Factory Close up

No thank you, I will pass on that one.

Also it is not a zone that is almost dead that I have come across but many zones.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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No thank you, I will pass on that one.

Also it is not a zone that is almost dead that I have come across but many zones.

Sure But Oxford Street
is Bliss.


Tot Crt Rd is Bliss
All the University 's are near there

Brent Cross
That Mega One in Shephards Bush

[arista]

"No thank you, I will pass on that one."


But it will give you Ideas


Aspiration

[Kizzy]

There are many countries without nuclear missiles, if they are such a target when why are they not at this moment from the 'bullies' Have you ever considered we may actually be a 'bully'?