[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lime

Agree 100%
As a 43yr old Afrikaner , that kind of statements reminds me of my school days during apartheid when after morning prayers we were constantly told how good we were and how bad the "Kaffirs" were

Not at all - I am referring specifically to CRIMINALS within the context of this thread - NOT 'PEOPLE OF COLOUR' or 'FOREIGNERS' per se.

Do you not regard criminals as turds? Especially violent ones?

A white or pink coloured foreign criminal is still a criminal, as is a black or brown skinned one.

Otherwise, non-criminal foreigners OR Britons are merely people.

I am a 'Person of Colour' myself and the son of an immigrant, so I am not being offensive to any others who are the same, I'm merely stating facts.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Not at all - I am referring specifically to CRIMINALS within the context of this thread - NOT 'PEOPLE OF COLOUR' or 'FOREIGNERS' per se.

Do you not regard criminals as turds? Especially violent ones?

A white or pink coloured foreign criminal is still a criminal, as is a black or brown skinned one.

Otherwise, non-criminal foreigners OR Britons are merely people.

I am a 'Person of Colour' myself and the son of an immigrant, so I am not being offensive to any others who are the same, I'm merely stating facts.

You keep telling yourself that Kirk

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You keep telling yourself that Kirk

I am truly sorry that you feel this way Niamh because I am being truthful.

My point is that foreign criminals gravitate here because the pickings are richer and if they do get caught, our courts are more lenient, and if they are imprisoned, our prisons are like 5 star hotels compaed to the prisons back in their own countries. This being the case, there IS no real deterrent, and thus the INFLUX Continues unabated. I'm sorry, but that IS the way I see it.

The above points, by the way, are from an interview given by a Polish immigrant repeat offender who had just come out of jail here.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I am truly sorry that you feel this way Niamh because I am being truthful.

My point is that foreign criminals gravitate here because the pickings are richer and if they do get caught, our courts are more lenient, and if they are imprisoned, our prisons are like 5 star hotels compaed to the prisons back in their own countries. This being the case, there IS no real deterrent, and thus the INFLUX Continues unabated. I'm sorry, but that IS the way I see it.

The above points, by the way, are from an interview given by a Polish immigrant repeat offender who had just come out of jail here.

Well, I personally know plenty of Polish people, all hard working and lovely people. What you're saying about Polish people(or whatever nationality/nationalities) in general is highly offensive whether you're just talking about "the bad ones" or not. In situations like these I think it's always a good idea to put yourself in the shoes of those you're speaking about (which despite your claims of not including "the good ones" will always offend "the good ones" anyway) Like if you said "It was probably an Irish person, it usually is", I would find that offensive even if you put in your disclaimer of "I'm not saying all Irish people are scum bags but...."

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Not at all - I am referring specifically to CRIMINALS within the context of this thread - NOT 'PEOPLE OF COLOUR' or 'FOREIGNERS' per se.

Do you not regard criminals as turds? Especially violent ones?

A white or pink coloured foreign criminal is still a criminal, as is a black or brown skinned one.

Otherwise, non-criminal foreigners OR Britons are merely people.

I am a 'Person of Colour' myself and the son of an immigrant, so I am not being offensive to any others who are the same, I'm merely stating facts.

You weren't referring to criminals in your analogy, it was this that Lime found offensive I would say he is owed an apology.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You weren't referring to criminals in your analogy, it was this that Lime found offensive I would say he is owed an apology.

Well then - why don't you make it. I was clearly NOT referring to ALL foreigners.

And I was correct in my assumption.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Well then - why don't you make it. I was clearly NOT referring to ALL foreigners.

And I was correct in my assumption.

This time maybe but do you come into threads or make a statement eachtime you're wrong and it's an English person who committed a crime? - There are plenty of those too you know

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Another example of 'The Truth That Dare Not Be Spoken' Before any CCTV pics were published, I predicted to my friend that when this twat was caught, they would not call him Bill Smith or Fred Jones -- if you know what I mean. I just dare not state as much on here.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

However, I had not seen any such photo, nor had any previous knowledge, but was simply talking briefly with a neighbour who mentioned that 'another nutter was at it, attacking women in London'. He did not mention specifics, or give any description of the perpetrator, but then he did not have to, and I casually told him; "Odds on it will be a foreigner" Or words to that effect, and NO - despite what some on here may insist - I was NOT being xenophobic or racist, just realistic.



Much like if one went fishing every week in the same pond one had fished in for decades, but increasingly one now kept hooking 80% turds where it used to be mainly fish – then one is either mistakenly fishing in a cess pit, or those once well-stocked waters are becoming increasingly polluted.

Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Not at all - I am referring specifically to CRIMINALS within the context of this thread - NOT 'PEOPLE OF COLOUR' or 'FOREIGNERS' per se.

.

So I guess 80% of London is full of criminals then ..the back pedalling .

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So I guess 80% of London is full of criminals then ..the back pedalling .

I cannot help your skewed perception of what I CLEARLY wrote, nor does your personal opportunist axe-grinding come as any surprise to me.

I am not back-peddling at all, merely explaining what I meant to someone who I respect and do not wish to fall out with.

Perhaps YOU could explain how you educe that "London is 80% full of criminals" from what I ACTUALLY wrote?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I cannot help your skewed perception of what I CLEARLY wrote, nor does your personal opportunist axe-grinding come as any surprise to me.

I love how you apologise to Niamh but attack me, my perception isn't scewed if it were no one would agree with it, get over it, I normally avoid your posts but in some cases I just can't let them pass. Just have a look at how many of your posts I have actually commented on in the last month and find that personal axe you are talking about please. I will be waiting.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This time maybe but do you come into threads or make a statement eachtime you're wrong and it's an English person who committed a crime? - There are plenty of those too you know

I do know that Niamh, and I do comment upon threads where white or English people commit crime, but I have not had to come on and admit being wrong in other cases because this particular scenario is the first time it has ocurred.

I did not intend to offend anyone but was stating the truth as I know it, but I did take the time to respond to Lime and explain that I was specifically referring to criminal foreigners NOT foreigners or blacks per se, and I hope that he recognises this.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Well then - why don't you make it. I was clearly NOT referring to ALL foreigners.

And I was correct in my assumption.

No didn't think you would, I know being right is the all encompassing goal for you, however it was the use of 'turd' in your story... can you not see how this could be seen as offensive?