[waterhog]

if you are born in that country - you are not illegal ?

[arista]

Originally Posted by waterhog

if you are born in that country - you are not illegal ?

Correct.

[Ammi]

...that video is awful, no matter what Donald Trump is or what his beliefs...children should not be 'taught hate' and they should not be used to portray it either../incredible that any parent would allow their young child to be a part of the making of that....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...that video is awful, no matter what Donald Trump is or what his beliefs...children should not be 'taught hate' and they should not be used to portray it either../incredible that any parent would allow their young child to be a part of the making of that....

Its Politics

Kids are used all the time in USA

That Old Granny
just sits there.

[arista]

Outside The NBC Studio
that is doing Saturday Night Live show with Donald Trump
there are loads of Latino's Protesting Today.

NBC is loving it
as they may get the Highest Ratings ever.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...that video is awful, no matter what Donald Trump is or what his beliefs...children should not be 'taught hate' and they should not be used to portray it either../incredible that any parent would allow their young child to be a part of the making of that....

I think it's great to allow kids to recognise bigotry and understand when they are being unfairly discriminated against.

[JoshBB]

I think the video is hilarious tbh

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think it's great to allow kids to recognise bigotry and understand when they are being unfairly discriminated against.

Not if the have the Facts Wrong

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Its Politics

Kids are used all the time in USA

..being 'politics' doesn't make that video any less grim Arista..and no, they're not always used to 'hate back', like they are with this....

[JoshBB]

Honestly though, Donald Trump has said far worse than the 'f word'.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..being 'politics' doesn't make that video any less grim Arista..and no, they're not always used to 'hate back', like they are with this....

The Irony
is some of those kids may End up working in
Trump Business, when they are older.


In The UK we could never do this.
But in America its Normal, sadly Ammi

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Not if the have the Facts Wrong

They have him bang on, he may have been warned to tone it done but it's too late when you've marginalised a whole sub section of the electorate as 2nd class citizens.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They have him bang on, he may have been warned to tone it done but it's too late when you've marginalised a whole sub section of the electorate as 2nd class citizens.

Its a long way to go.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

The Irony
is some of those kids may End up working in
Trump Business, when they are older.


In The UK we could never do this.
But in America its Normal, sadly Ammi

..it's not 'normal' no matter which country, to 'fight' ignorance in the same vein, which that ignorance has been shown, which is exactly what the vid is doing...and using children to portray it is despicable in my opinion..and neither is it an effective way either because it's just creating more hate and shouldn't be taught to children as a way/only educating that ignorance will ever work as we know...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LiamBB

It's a good message but delivered very badly. And trying too hard to be offensive which makes it look silly and will turn away a lot of people who would potentially agree with the cause. Yes they've got noticed but probably for the wrong reasons

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's not 'normal' no matter which country, to 'fight' ignorance in the same vein, which that ignorance has been shown, which is exactly what the vid is doing...and using children to portray it is despicable in my opinion..and neither is it an effective way either because it's just creating more hate and shouldn't be taught to children as a way/only educating that ignorance will ever work as we know...

I have Worked in America
it is Normal.
The Shock Value is the Key Ammi.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's not 'normal' no matter which country, to 'fight' ignorance in the same vein, which that ignorance has been shown, which is exactly what the vid is doing...and using children to portray it is despicable in my opinion..and neither is it an effective way either because it's just creating more hate and shouldn't be taught to children as a way/only educating that ignorance will ever work as we know...

[Will.]

Where's Supernanny when you need her...

[Kizzy]

Teaching kids to respond to ignorance an oppression? priceless.
It's ridiculous to expect adults to shelter kids from the prejudice they face once they are older from those who seek to govern their country.

[Livia]

Cynical manipulation of children by adults. Doesn't matter whether I agree with the message or not. So it's okay to act ignorantly so long as the person you're reacting to is ignorant? Nice message... and not one kids that age would really understand anyway.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

I have Worked in America
it is Normal.
The Shock Value is the Key Ammi.

...hmmm, well...way to change the world and make it a better place in the words of Michael Jackson...no ignorant mind-sets are ever going to change with being offensive back...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

Cynical manipulation of children by adults. Doesn't matter whether I agree with the message or not. So it's okay to act ignorantly so long as the person you're reacting to is ignorant? Nice message... and not one kids that age would really understand anyway.

..yep, this exactly, Liv...

[Kizzy]

Cynical, it's the truth... since when was telling kids the truth been considered cynical. Responding to ignorance doesn't make you ignorant... that is an oxymoron.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...hmmm, well...way to change the world and make it a better place in the words of Michael Jackson...no ignorant mind-sets are ever going to change with being offensive back...

Micheal Jackson? You think that quoting his lyrics would help in this instance.
Shall we blast 'heal the world' at full volume up trump towers?....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Cynical, it's the truth... since when was telling kids the truth been considered cynical. Responding to ignorance doesn't make you ignorant... that is an oxymoron.

I said using children was cynical. The operative word there is "using".