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Cherie · 05-11-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Life isn't really that simple though.

You can't just pack a bag and go to another country.

I might need a visa

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

No I wouldn't choose to

Thanks.

Cherie · 05-11-2015, 10:04 PM

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Thanks.

You are welcome

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:05 PM

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No we are talking about personal belief here. If someone really hated where they lived regardless of family don't they have the right to move to a place that they love where they can feel free and be themselves?

"Regardless of family"???

Well, if it's a person who wants to move to another place that they love and set up a new life in another country I would hope they came to that conclusion BEFORE settling down with a spouse and kids.

If they have kids, then no they've given up the right to "do what they like on a whim and feel free". Being a parent involves a degree of selflessness.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

"Regardless of family"???

Well, if it's a person who wants to move to another place that they love and set up a new life in another country I would hope they came to that conclusion BEFORE settling down with a spouse and kids.

If they have kids, then no they've given up the right to "do what they like on a whim and feel free". Being a parent involves a degree of selflessness.

I think all those single one parent families around the world would disagree with you on that. But in a perfect world yes but sadly the world is not perfect.

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:07 PM

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I think all those single one parent families around the world would disagree with you on that. But in a perfect world yes but sadly the world is not perfect.

Disagree with me on what?

Yes, there are terrible people in the world who abandon their kids, your point?

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:09 PM

I actually know someone who was so unhappy here and he has family here but he needed to leave this country because he was so unhappy. He took that step and moved to NewZealand. He's been there now over 10yrs and is very happy.

DemolitionRed · 05-11-2015, 10:09 PM

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No we are talking about personal belief here. If someone really hated where they lived regardless of family don't they have the right to move to a place that they love where they can feel free and be themselves?

I guess that's how the immigrants who land on our shores feel. Here's hoping you would be better accepted than they are.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:10 PM

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Disagree with me on what?

Yes, there are terrible people in the world who abandon their kids, your point?

My point is that those single parents who's spouse has left them and the country will not agree with you.

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:10 PM

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I actually know someone who was so unhappy here and he has family here but he needed to leave this country because he was so unhappy. He took that step and moved to NewZealand. He's been there now over 10yrs and is very happy.

So?

Not everybody has that luxury. And not everybody would want to start a brand new life elsewhere.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

So?

Not everybody has that luxury. And not everybody would want to start a brand new life elsewhere.

My OP is a simple question. It's a yes or now.

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:12 PM

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My point is that those single parents who's spouse has left them and the country will not agree with you.

So?

As I said earlier, those people don't have the "right" to think of only themselves and their own happiness. That was my point.

It's selfish of them, they should've thought about what direction they wanted their life to go in BEFORE having kids and then burdening someone else with the responsibility of raising them.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:13 PM

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So?

As I said earlier, those people don't have the "right" to think of only themselves and their own happiness. That was my point.

It's selfish of them, they should've thought about what direction they wanted their life to go in BEFORE having kids and then burdening someone else with the responsibility of raising them.

I agree with you 100% but people still do that.

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:13 PM

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My OP is a simple question.

No it isn't.

It's not simple in the slightest.

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:13 PM

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I agree with you 100% but people still do that.

Yeah, that doesn't make it right.

Cherie · 05-11-2015, 10:14 PM

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My OP is a simple question. It's a yes or now.

You need to change the word "why" in the OP as it is confusing

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:14 PM

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Yeah, that doesn't make it right.

If they have family i do get your point but they still do it regardless. But my OP is not asking if you have family or if your single etc it simply asks if you would move to a country that you love.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

You need to change the word "why" in the OP as it is confusing

Cherie i do not use the word WHY in my OP.

Marsh. · 05-11-2015, 10:16 PM

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If they have family i do get your point but they still do it regardless. But my OP is not asking if you have family or if your single etc it simply asks if you would move to a country that you love.

No it doesn't.

It asks...

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Why do people choose to live in a Country that they actually hate?

Which is a very complex question and not simple in the slightest.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:17 PM

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No it doesn't.

It asks...

Which is a very complex question and not simple in the slightest.

I was just about to fix that but you know what i mean.

DemolitionRed · 05-11-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Life isn't really that simple though.

You can't just pack a bag and go to another country.

Why not? If that country has visa restrictions then its going to take a lot more planning but what's to stop a single person or childless couple packing a bag and heading off to Europe?

I've lived in France, Italy and the US. France was easy because of my French relatives and the US was easy because I had friends but I was 18 when I went back packing around Europe and ended up living and working in Trieste (Italy) for a year.

Cherie · 05-11-2015, 10:18 PM

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Cherie i do not use the word WHY in my OP.

Not in the title, but in the OP hence all the confusion

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:18 PM

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No it doesn't.

It asks...

Which is a very complex question and not simple in the slightest.

I didn't say ACTUALLY.

Johnnyuk123 · 05-11-2015, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Not in the title, but in the OP hence all the confusion

Well tbh you did answer my OP so i'm happy.

Cherie · 05-11-2015, 10:19 PM

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Why not? If that country has visa restrictions then its going to take a lot more planning but what's to stop a single person or childless couple packing a bag and heading off to Europe?

I've lived in France, Italy and the US. France was easy because of my French relatives and the US was easy because I had friends but I was 18 when I went back packing around Europe and ended up living and working in Trieste (Italy) for a year.

It can be done but obviously if you have kids it needs planning, and you need to know you can support them

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