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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yes France is up now but we are in the same if not worse position since that article was written.

Down in the last quarter? what does that tell us? This re-pull on austerity is once again causing a downward trend and the longer it goes on, the worse it gets.

I don't believe the Tories will continue doing what they are doing because they know the long term damage it will cause, but they also use this stance on austerity as one of their big advertising slogans so just like they didn't tell us back in 2012-13 they will keep it under their belt again.

Edited to say, We are being played with. The government are relying on our ignorance.

With respect, i've seen many replies on this thread taking an opposite stance in this to yourself, none of them ignorant.

I think you do the British people a great disservice, they are a lot more informed than you think, and shouldn't be judged ignorant because their views differ from yours

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

With respect, i've seen many replies on this thread taking an opposite stance in this to yourself, none of them ignorant.

I think you do the British people a great disservice, they are a lot more informed than you think, and shouldn't be judged ignorant because their views differ from yours

If someone has good reason to vote conservative, which I'm sure there are many (depending on how these policies benefit them), then fine, but when people rattle on about immigration and benefit scroungers being the biggest ill of this country, then I stand by what I said.

'Ignorance' as used in my post, means lack of knowledge or information on a subject. What it doesn't mean, though people have the right to interpret this word out of context if they are looking to be offended, is foolishness, slow-wittedness or dimness.

Edited to say: How many times on here have Corbyn supporters been called idiots, fools or bonkers? I'm not about to trudge through the archives but if I did, I'd know which posters history to search. Frankly, those comments don't ruin my day

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

If someone has good reason to vote conservative, which I'm sure there are many (depending on how these policies benefit them), then fine, but when people rattle on about immigration and benefit scroungers being the biggest ill of this country, then I stand by what I said.

'Ignorance' as used in my post, means lack of knowledge or information on a subject. What it doesn't mean, though people have the right to interpret this word out of context if they are looking to be offended, is foolishness, slow-wittedness or dimness.

Edited to say: How many times on here have Corbyn supporters been called idiots, fools or bonkers? I'm not about to trudge through the archives but if I did, I'd know which posters history to search. Frankly, those comments don't ruin my day

Just as a side note to this, my mum has voted labour all her life because that's how she was brought up, and when I was growing up she'd always say how against the conservatives she was. But in the last election she actually voted for Cameron, and her reason? Because she's getting older and she heard somewhere that older people tend to lean more towards the conservatives! I couldn't believe it. It had nothing to do with policies or her own beliefs or anything, just hearsay. It's a good example i think that not all voters are informed (sorry mum!) in fact I'd say that you lot are probably in the minority.

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

Just as a side note to this, my mum has voted labour all her life because that's how she was brought up, and when I was growing up she'd always say how against the conservatives she was. But in the last election she actually voted for Cameron, and her reason? Because she's getting older and she heard somewhere that older people tend to lean more towards the conservatives! I couldn't believe it. It had nothing to do with policies or her own beliefs or anything, just hearsay.

It was a great plan, they've done wonders for the elderly and pensions... ...

It's a good example i think that not all voters are informed (sorry mum!) in fact I'd say that you lot are probably in the minority.

I keep saying this and similar on here but am often shot down with assurances that the majority of people are politically aware. I was starting to think that I was living in some sort of alternative reality bubble, because in my experience 75% of people have no idea and aren't really interested