| FAQ | 
| Members List | 
| Calendar | 
| Search | 
| Today's Posts | 
|  |  | 
| Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics. | 
| Register to reply Log in to reply | 
|  | Thread Tools | Display Modes | 
|  17-11-2015, 05:07 PM | #26 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | 
			
			totally agree. I dont think anyone would let their kid dress like that. Apart from maybe a celeb who says they let their kid be themselves, yet really, its the parent forcing them to be 'different'
		 
				__________________ | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 05:09 PM | #27 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Likes cars that go boom | Quote: 
 Spoiler:  
				__________________   | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 05:10 PM | #28 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member |  | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 05:20 PM | #29 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| The voice of reason | 
			
			Action man is a tough boys action figure not a soppy girl doll who will give you body dimorphism
		 | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 06:00 PM | #32 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż | Quote: 
   
				__________________ BBUK Faves: Richard, Sam, Teja, Farida & Nancy Strictly Faves: La Voix, George, Jimmy, Harry & Alex Celeb Traitors Faves: Stephen, Alan, Joe W, Clare & Lucy Spoiler:  | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 06:27 PM | #33 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| iconic | 
			
			I think it's a great idea to have a mixture of genders in any toy advert. We shouldn't be enforcing gender stereotypes at all, let alone from such a young age.  Honestly some of these comments are really annoying me to be honest, "we should have had a more normal kid".. erm? Since when was being gay 'not normal'? And why are we even making this assumption on top of portraying it in a negative light? This is not the 1900s. Grow up. | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 06:47 PM | #34 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Inactive | 
			
			Pandora Boxx 1 day ago This almost made me cry! I used to play with my sister's Barbies and felt such shame afterward. I'm so glad we can just let kids be kids. Thank you for this! Boys like dolls too! 
				__________________  | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 06:50 PM | #36 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | Quote: 
   If they really wanted to challenge the stigma of boys who play with dolls being girly or whatever, they should have used a kid that either wasn't made to look/talk like that, or that didn't do either naturally, but since they did, it only strengthens that viewpoint. 
				__________________ | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 06:54 PM | #37 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Inactive | 
			
			I agree with what everyone saying regarding gender roles and stereotypes etc. But from a business/company point of view, they've hit the nail on the head here since it's only going to make "girly" boys want to play with Barbies even more, providing that their parents buy it for them after endless pestering   If anything's going to put people off buying it is the fact that it sounds like "Mosquito Barbie"   
				__________________  | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 06:58 PM | #38 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Witch | Quote: 
 It's very clear to me that he wasn't saying that gay people aren't normal, but that the kid they used in the ad was playing up to the stereotypes, which doesn't exactly help the message they were trying to portray. | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:10 PM | #39 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| iconic | Quote: 
  Using the word 'normal' in contrast to what you perceived as a gay stereotype suggests that, being gay is opposite to what is normal. You're not a homophobe, but your comment certainly inferred a homophobic theme. I'm just letting you know. Quote: 
 | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:15 PM | #40 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | Quote: 
 Quote: 
 
				__________________ Last edited by Liam-; 17-11-2015 at 07:16 PM. | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:18 PM | #41 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | 
			
			women today, trying to make men more feminine, its worrying, they trying to take a mans masculine identity away from him, and make them all soft and girly and pink, what is wrong with the world today,
		 | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:19 PM | #42 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Quand il pleut, il pleut | 
			
			..in my thoughts earlier when I watched the ad, I used the word 'regular' and Liam use the word 'normal' and in the context of his post in it's entirety it was a perfectly acceptable word to use because the children in the ad are not being portrayed as what we would think as regular kids..and that to me is the only fault I have with the ad...mind you, Hayden has made some good points as well so I will rewatch it..(it was very early when I looked at it and it was a first thought..)...
		 
				__________________ | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:21 PM | #43 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| iconic | Quote: 
 | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:23 PM | #44 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| iconic | 
			
			This is one company's way of trying to be more gender-inclusive. They don't make wrestling or action figures otherwise I would assume they would include a little girl in an advert for that too. (and while we're on the subject that would also be a very good idea)
		 | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:25 PM | #46 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | Quote: 
 
				__________________ | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:29 PM | #47 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Quand il pleut, il pleut | 
			
			...one of the definitions of the word 'mainstream' is 'normal' though, which is exactly the word that was used so must equally be as acceptable as something defined the same...Josh, I'm not trying to be pernickety but the whole post and context has to be considered and it was perfectly fine...both in use of wording and in content...
		 
				__________________ | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 07:32 PM | #48 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | Quote: 
   
				__________________ | |||
|   | 
|  17-11-2015, 10:51 PM | #50 | |||
| 
 | ||||
| Senior Member | 
			
			Ive noticed most little boys are very gay.  they don't seem very manly at all. [/s]
		 
				__________________ Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 17-11-2015 at 10:54 PM. | |||
|   | 
| Register to reply Log in to reply | 
| 
 | 
 |