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The X Factor 2015 [S12] Series 12 of ITV's music reality show, The X Factor with judges Simon, Rita Ora, Cheryl and Nick Grimshaw ran from August to December 2015 and was won by Louisa Johnson.

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Old 14-12-2015, 10:31 AM #1
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He gives out the song choices so of course he has a say on that.

And as his production he'll tell the Choreographers what he wants onstage which was a Choir and a loud backing track.
But, again, do you honestly think Simon himself does these things or it's producers who run the show for him?

I don't think it's actually him. Not for a second.

Also, are the guest performers given "song choices"? Seems a bit odd. Surely the point of their segment was to just sing their most well known or most recent hits as alumni of the show. Leona isn't under the thumb of Syco anymore I believe.

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But, again, do you honestly think Simon himself does these things or it's producers who run the show for him?

I don't think it's actually him. Not for a second.

Also, are the guest performers given "song choices"? Seems a bit odd. Surely the point of their segment was to just sing their most well known or most recent hits as alumni of the show. Leona isn't under the thumb of Syco anymore I believe.
Leona's meant to still be friends with Simon though and probably thought that she was doing him a favour helping out a new Artist whilst getting her own career restored so probably did anything that Simon asked her to.

And of course Simon doesn't have full control over his show, however not many producers are gonna wanna mess with Simon Cowell considering he has so many connections over every Showbiz angle it's unreal.
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Leona's meant to still be friends with Simon though and probably thought that she was doing him a favour helping out a new Artist whilst getting her own career restored so probably did anything that Simon asked her to.

And of course Simon doesn't have full control over his show, however not many producers are gonna wanna mess with Simon Cowell considering he has so many connections over every Showbiz angle it's unreal.
Yes but "not wanting to mess with Simon" is suggesting he gave a damn what song they sang?

If Simon actually had any passion for this show left it wouldn't be in the state it is now.

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Yes but "not wanting to mess with Simon" is suggesting he gave a damn what song they sang?

If Simon actually had any passion for this show left it wouldn't be in the state it is now.
Well as he wants to promote Fleur he doesn't want any of his other contestants to overshadow her as Fleur doesn't sing so the only way to make her shine is to sabotage those around her, including his beloved Leona it seems.
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Well as he wants to promote Fleur he doesn't want any of his other contestants to overshadow her as Fleur doesn't sing so the only way to make her shine is to sabotage those around her, including his beloved Leona it seems.
So now he made Ben sing Run because Simon knew he wouldn't be able to handle it and it would make Fleur look good?

I think you overestimate the actual musical knowledge and expertise of Simon Cowell.

The only thing he's good at is selling a brand.

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So now he made Ben sing Run because Simon knew he wouldn't be able to handle it and it would make Fleur look good?

I think you overestimate the actual musical knowledge and expertise of Simon Cowell.

The only thing he's good at is selling a brand.
It doesn't take much Musical knowledge to put two vocalists that don't mesh together as a duet to make them look bad does it?
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It doesn't take much Musical knowledge to put two vocalists that don't mesh together as a duet to make them look bad does it?
I thought we were discussing song choices.

Also, I think Leona and Ben would work together, it was just the song itself was too difficult for Ben.
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