[lostalex]

i don't like the way most people seem to be framing the whole thing as muslims against republicans... if you don't like muslims then you must like the republicans, or if you don't like republicans then you must support muslims...

i hate both.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't like the way most people seem to be framing the whole thing as muslims against republicans... if you don't like muslims then you must like the republicans, or if you don't like republicans then you must support muslims...

i hate both.

You're preaching to the Choir here Lostalex, I totally agree with you both organisations are a disgrace to me with looneys being responsible for so many crimes in the world.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't like the way most people seem to be framing the whole thing as muslims against republicans... if you don't like muslims then you must like the republicans, or if you don't like republicans then you must support muslims...

i hate both.

You hate an entire 1.6 billion people on the basis of their religion? Is that an actual statement that an actual person sat and took the time to type out?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

You hate an entire 1.6 billion people on the basis of their religion? Is that an actual statement that an actual person sat and took the time to type out?

I hate the ideology, yes.

just like i hate racists because i hate their ideology. but i've met some very racist people that i like very much, and i'm sure there are some very muslim people that i would get along with fine, and i'm sure i could like some of them as individuals.

Some of my best friends have been white skinheads, some of my best friends have been black baptist christians. i despise both of their ideologies, the skinheads for being racists, and the black baptists for being homophobic.

I don't see a conflict with me hating an ideology, but liking an individual who has that ideology.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I hate the ideology, yes.

just like i hate racists because i hate their ideology. but i've met some very racist people that i like very much, and i'm sure there are some very muslim people that i would get along with fine, and i'm sure i could like some of them as individuals.

Some of my best friends have been white skinheads, some of my best friends have been black baptist christians. i despise both of their ideologies, the skinheads for being racists, and the black baptists for being homophobic.

I don't see a conflict with me hating an ideology, but liking an individual who has that ideology.

You didn't say you hated the ideology of Islam in that post, you specifically said you hated muslims.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

You didn't say you hated the ideology of Islam in that post, you specifically said you hated muslims.

don't be pedantic, i also said that i hate skinheads and black baptist christians, but i said i like some individuals in those ideologies too. if you can't figure out what i mean, then whatever.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I hate the ideology, yes.

just like i hate racists because i hate their ideology. but i've met some very racist people that i like very much, and i'm sure there are some very muslim people that i would get along with fine, and i'm sure i could like some of them as individuals.

Some of my best friends have been white skinheads, some of my best friends have been black baptist christians. i despise both of their ideologies, the skinheads for being racists, and the black baptists for being homophobic.

I don't see a conflict with me hating an ideology, but liking an individual who has that ideology.

I agree with this, I've had Muslim friends in the past, but I hate their ideology.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Father Mockmas

I agree with this, I've had Muslim friends in the past, but I hate their ideology.

OOOH you peaked my interest Mock
.
Mock what part of this ideology that a third of the planet hold is it that you profess to hate? Do you hate it or do you just not understand it and just form opinions based on the last thing you read? These "Muslim friends" what was it that made you just cut them out of your life?
Im curious i dont think they existed did they?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

OOOH you peaked my interest Mock
.
Mock what part of this ideology that a third of the planet hold is it that you profess to hate? Do you hate it or do you just not understand it and just form opinions based on the last thing you read? These "Muslim friends" what was it that made you just cut them out of your life?
Im curious i dont think they existed did they?

you seem to impressed with numbers


you do know that there are quite a lot of thick people on this planet?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

you seem to impressed with numbers


you do know that there are quite a lot of thick people on this planet?

Did you mean too? I am well aware of that their are also far too many ignorant racist pricks on this planet as well did you know that?
You started this thread based on numbers from a Britain first website ffs

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Father Mockmas

I agree with this, I've had Muslim friends in the past, but I hate their ideology.

Have you read the Koran though? It's not all "kill the gays" and "enslave the women" you know..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Have you read the Koran though? It's not all "kill the gays" and "enslave the women" you know..

its full of vile superstitious nonsense

as with any religious book you can easily take a myriad of meanings and methods from it to suit any human agenda

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

its full of vile superstitious nonsense

as with any religious book you can easily take a myriad of meanings and methods from it to suit any human agenda

It has some quite repulsive verses, just as the bible and the torah do, but that doesn't mean the entirety of the ideology is bad.. just elements. That's the point I was trying to make.

There are verses referencing to help the weak and vulnerable in all three, which are very much necessary qualities to have in the neoliberal path we're heading down.