[Niamh.]

How do you know? you don't live here. I've spoken to plenty of older people who had no problem with gay marriage, in fact in the Polls leading up to the vote the majority of over 50s were in favour, not as big a majority as younger people but still a majority

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know? you don't live here. I've spoken to plenty of older people who had no problem with gay marriage, in fact in the Polls leading up to the vote the majority of over 50s were in favour, not as big a majority as younger people but still a majority

I have family there and you are wrong but lets leave it at that shall we.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I have family there and you are wrong but lets leave it at that shall we.

Well no, you can't tell someone they are wrong and then 'leave it at that.' What insider knowledge do you have that Niamh doesn't as an Irish citizen, what makes your family more knowledgeable on the matter than her?

Justify your statements, you can't just say something like that and then take the metaphorical ball home.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well no, you can't tell someone they are wrong and then 'leave it at that.' What insider knowledge do you have that Niamh doesn't as an Irish citizen, what makes your family more knowledgeable in the matter than her?

Justify your statements, you can't just say something like that and then take the metaphorical ball home.

I love a Man that can Strap another Up
Dezzy - You Are Worthy

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well no, you can't tell someone they are wrong and then 'leave it at that.' What insider knowledge do you have that Niamh doesn't as an Irish citizen, what makes your family more knowledgeable on the matter than her?

Justify your statements, you can't just say something like that and then take the metaphorical ball home.

Dezzy I am 63 now and was born bred and raised in Ireland for most of my life so that gives me the right. \I am Irish living in England. I wont argue with you two, end of.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Dezzy I am 63 now and was born bred and raised in Ireland for most of my life so that gives me the right. \I am Irish living in England. I wont argue with you two, end of.

Northern Ireland not Southern Ireland, I'm talking about Southern Ireland

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I have family there and you are wrong but lets leave it at that shall we.

How am I wrong? Lol did you not see the Polls before the Vote? You're family in Ireland clearly didn't

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How am I wrong? Lol did you not see the Polls before the Vote? You're family in Ireland clearly didn't

So Polls are never wrong now. Sorry but my telephone tells a different story, not some spotty geek on a high street soliciting poll opinions whilst most of the oldies are housebound.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So Polls are never wrong now. Sorry but my telephone tells a different story, not some spotty geek on a high street soliciting poll opinions whilst most of the oldies are housebound.

You're in contact with some family by phone and I actually live here, who knows more I wonder . . .?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're in contact with some family by phone and I actually live here, who knows more I wonder . . .?

You know what I mean and taking the piss out of me isn't the way to win a debate. Ill leave that thought with you because \I cant afford a ban, you win, all of Ireland loves gays.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

You know what I mean and taking the piss out of me isn't the way to win a debate. Ill leave that thought with you because \I cant afford a ban, you win, all of Ireland loves gays.

Super, I knew you'd agree eventually

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're in contact with some family by phone and I actually live here, who knows more I wonder . . .?

He was brought up there, and in a different generation to you, bit much to attempt to dismiss his experiences or view because you're Irish and don't feel the same.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He was brought up there, and in a different generation to you, bit much to attempt to dismiss his experiences or view because you're Irish and don't feel the same.

She's justified her points of view, she's quoted the polls as her source, she's discounting his opinion because he is making statements without backing them up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He was brought up there, and in a different generation to you, bit much to attempt to dismiss his experiences or view because you're Irish and don't feel the same.

He wasn't brought up in the Republic of Ireland actually

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So Polls are never wrong now. Sorry but my telephone tells a different story, not some spotty geek on a high street soliciting poll opinions whilst most of the oldies are housebound.

That's quite a strawman argument, you're also basically rejecting a reliable source because it doesn't suit your agenda. Can polls be wrong? Sometimes but not enough to discredit them as a whole.

At the end of the day the polls matched the results which does more than suggest that the polls were largely correct.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Yeah you don't have to want to see or enjoy seeing it, there's a big difference between that and not accepting it. I remember when I took my first bf home to meet my parents, they were both accepting of him, and us being in a relationship, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have wanted to see us doing anything That doesn't make them homophobic though. I just don't like it when people call it things like disgusting etc because it's incredibly belittling. Even if that's how they genuinely feel.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I'm pretty sure most parents wouldn't be over joyed watching their kids kiss or whatever with their partner regardless of whether they were straight or gay

..kissing is ok, they often kiss their partners in front of us and I find it really sweet and touching/that display of their love but beyond that, that would be all kinds of weird to imagine...I would say just as ick, as them imagining their dad and I...I mean, just no...