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Old 09-01-2016, 01:51 AM #1
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Yeah if he had been allowed to expand on this a bit, it might have made a bit more 'sense'

I don't mean it would justify it, but the child abuse thing just..I can't make any sense of at all. I cannot see anyway in which it is abuse. Nor did the 'the child can't cho0se' make any sense as an explanation.
I felt he was given ample time to expand on it but he didn't do a good job of it and prattled on about nothing
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Yeah if he had been allowed to expand on this a bit, it might have made a bit more 'sense'

I don't mean it would justify it, but the child abuse thing just..I can't make any sense of at all. I cannot see anyway in which it is abuse. Nor did the 'the child can't cho0se' make any sense as an explanation.
I felt he was given ample time to expand on it but he didn't do a good job of it and prattled on about nothing
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It's quite clear Big Brother wanted him out. They literally dug out a really strange comment (even stranger that he still agrees with it) from the past to set him up and get him out.

There must of been a hell of a lot of OFCOM complaints...
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I can accept other people's opinions, but I don't feel the need to respect someone for having one which differs from my own.
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I don't believe that all views should be respected. It's very dependant on the circumstance and how that certain opinion effects somebody personally. I don't think ignorant views like Winston's deserve much respect from anyone and I don't think he should expect to receive respect for them either.
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Obviously going with what's going on tonight... Do you think it's right to boo and hate and argue with those who we don't agree with?

It really winds me up how awful everyone has been towards Winston. Yes he's pretty disgusting with his views, but do people really think that treating him they way they did would fix anything? Like surely, it's better to show people they are wrong, rather than try and make them feel **** for their opinions?

I honestly think that when you treat people like they are disgusting for having a different opinion to you, it doesn't solve anything... You can change peoples opinions by encouraging them and hoping for the best. If you try and force them, nothing will change.

Just my opinion... I'm sure I'm in the minority though.

but in this day and age - everyone should no what is acceptable.
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of course we should. How do you think the LGBT community has come to be accepted now? By letting people speak and their views heard. I find it obscene that people forget that and are not capable of accepting anyone with a different view to their own.
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of course we should. How do you think the LGBT community has come to be accepted now? By letting people speak and their views heard. I find it obscene that people forget that and are not capable of accepting anyone with a different view to their own.
He can have any ignorant view he likes.

He was asked to explain his view. Hardly unreasonable.

How is gay adoption akin to child abuse? He couldn't answer because its not true.
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When I say 'We should respect other peoples opinions' I don't mean we should say 'yaas you're so right, i totes agree', I mean that we should say 'Well I don't agree with your opinions but I can put that behind me and treat you like a human anyway.'

I just think the way Winston has been treated tonight has been completely OTT.
I'm just picking this post without reading much of the thread, but as a gay person I don't feel the need to respect Winston's opinion since he clearly doesn't have respect for someone like me.
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He didnt bring these views into the house though. Big Brother did
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He didnt bring these views into the house though. Big Brother did
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his views are still pertinent bc they're entirely why he was cast in the first place
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his views are still pertinent bc they're entirely why he was cast in the first place
And he's allowed "his views"
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And he's allowed "his views"
He's certainly allowed them. But have them respected? No.

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And he's allowed "his views"
so are the people who don't agree with them, because it's their view too can't have a view and expect people to be please with it. Respect has to be earned.
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Meh I don't respect his opinion but then that means that I just wouldn't engage with him about it. He believes what he believes and will continue to do so whether you try and lambast him and shout him down or not. Ultimately he is a throwback but there will always be people like him in any generation who are unable to come to terms with changes in society.
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Everyone has the right to an opinion...it's called freedom of speech.
However we don't have to like or respect anyone's opinion...we have to respect the fact that they are entitled to one.
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We don't have to respect the opinions, however the right to express those opinions should be respected.
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should you tolerate people being intolerant? no.

any injustice can be justified by belief. Dicks fit vaginas, and it's natural for men to get horny and want sex, so a rapist could say he was just doing what nature intended. does that mean we should tolerate rape?
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I dont really see how its possible to respect one mans opinion if his opinion is we should disrespect 10% of humanity. So, no, not always.
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I dont really see how its possible to respect one mans opinion if his opinion is we should disrespect 10% of humanity. So, no, not always.
Where did he say we should disrespect all gays? Why make that up?
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I don't respect his opinion. I respect his right to an opinion but that's an entirely different thing. I have no respect for Winston in general.
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No we shouldn't respect their opinions. If you spill stupid filth expect to be treated like filth.
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Big Brother knew exactly what they were doing. They booked him, recorded the views they wanted to air, they put him in the house and put him in a game they knew would create conflict. They then fed him to the wolves and maybe even changed the eviction procedures to make sure he was evicted. They even then probably forced Emma to do the interview she did and probably prompted Rylan and the heavily biased panel. In short he was stitched up like a kipper and fed to the lions and for what, a few extra viewers and a human interest story that disgusted many of the GBP.

If you want to know who the real villain is here, look no further than BB itself. Winston is purely a nobody with ****y views and he was bought and sold as a sacrificial lamb by a turd of an organisation that will grovel in dustbins for viewing figures.
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