[Firewire]

He won't do very well and I think he'll struggle to get roles. And now he won't even be able to return to EastEnders.

Ben Hardy seems to be doing well though as he's now part of the X-Men franchise.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if that turned out to be true. I can't ever recall EastEnders showing a completed suicide before. It'd have certainly been a first.

Apart from mad may blowing herself up with the Slaters oven neither can I. Which is surprising for Enders.

[Marsh.]

Didn't Nick's son kill himself by jumping off the bridge?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Firewire

He won't do very well and I think he'll struggle to get roles. And now he won't even be able to return to EastEnders.

Ben Hardy seems to be doing well though as he's now part of the X-Men franchise.

He's landed the lead role in the new Texas Chain Saw Massacre movie and was in Silent Witness a few weeks ago so he doesn't seem to be struggling.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

He won't do very well and I think he'll struggle to get roles. And now he won't even be able to return to EastEnders.

Ben Hardy seems to be doing well though as he's now part of the X-Men franchise.

Hasn't he landed the lead part in the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if that turned out to be true. I can't ever recall EastEnders showing a completed suicide before. It'd have certainly been a first.

Ethel Shade?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Didn't Nick's son kill himself by jumping off the bridge?

No, Nick accidentally killed him. He was after Mark Fowler and fiddled with the brakes on his bike or something but Ashley ended up driving it and killing himself instead.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Didn't Nick's son kill himself by jumping off the bridge?

Didn't he crash his bike into the launderette? All Dot cared about was the window

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

No, Nick accidentally killed him. He was after Mark Fowler and fiddled with the brakes on his bike or something but Ashley ended up driving it and killing himself instead.

Oh right.

Who on earth am I thinking of on the bridge?

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hasn't he landed the lead part in the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie?

Yes but I'm not sure it'll do well

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh right.

Who on earth am I thinking of on the bridge?

Nick and Mark did have a showdown up there, I think Nick ended up in a wheelchair because of it, but I'm not sure

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Yes but I'm not sure it'll do well

He is way better actor the Ben Hardy so should smash it

[Rob!]

Ban Hardy is so ridiculously hot omg

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh right.

Who on earth am I thinking of on the bridge?

Youtube video

[Marsh.]

Oh yeah, I remember now.

[Rob!]

"Relax! You're perfectly safe."

[Denver]

They need to bring Thomas Law back

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I remember them saying they abandoned the idea because it would've made the entire story "too depressing even for Eastenders".

I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised.

I think it’s because of the fear that tackling the issue may push an already emotionally unstable person to the brink and lead to reckless emulation by those who might regard it as some glamorous ideal. I don’t think anyone’s asking for such an irresponsible portrayal but, rather, a well-crafted, gritty depiction of a person taking a few knocks in life and reaching an end-state of utter despair. No one would be happy with a flippant, “life fast, die young” suicide storyline but a hard-hitting portrayal of a severely ill person who simply can’t cope anymore, and showing the utter depths of agony and hopelessness inflicted on both the victim and the loved ones forced to pick up the pieces in the aftermath, would be a perfect portrayal, in my opinion, and could even alert some to the warning signs of suicidal behavior in those they know, potentially saving them from the abyss. Executed thoroughly and with dedication and commitment, of course. The current team and this current style of block storytelling would probably create too many holes in the plot. I know not every character can be at the forefront 24/7 but it’d be far more effective to see a progressive deterioration rather than someone who showed no former signs of depression or mental illness at large suddenly decide to top themselves.

The above I’d ten times rather see than some school kid wack his sister to death with a jewelry box and half the square perfectly content to let an innocent man rot in prison or another tedious love triangle. But I doubt they’d be able to pull it off these days.

[Marsh.]

I agree Redway.

[Redway]

So is Lee still attempting suicide, or has the whole idea been scrapped altogether?

[Firewire]

Jacqueline wants to come back, she's been off for over a year. I wonder if they extended her leave because she came back for a few weeks in September.

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...to-eastenders/

[Firewire]

I wonder if they're waiting until Jake's leave is over so she comes back to get him out of prison. I can't see her willingly living on the square whilst her dad is in prison for something he didn't do.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

So is Lee still attempting suicide, or has the whole idea been scrapped altogether?

His depression story seems to be ongoing. I don't know if suicide will play a part.

I'm guessing all of this stuff with Whitney will affect him when he finds out about her kissing Mick.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

I wonder if they're waiting until Jake's leave is over so she comes back to get him out of prison. I can't see her willingly living on the square whilst her dad is in prison for something he didn't do.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we had a Tanya full time return too.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we had a Tanya full time return too.

Both Jo Joyner and Nina Wadia will be back before the year is over.