[Ammi]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Plus he was a court appointed lawyer so Brendan didn't get to choose.
I wanted to throw things at my tv when the judge asked Brendan if he thought
Kachinsky was doing a good job.

..I bet your TV throwing urges started with his first words about Brandon, DR.. "we have a 16 year old who was, while morally and legally responsible, was heavily influenced by someone who was evil incarnate"
...such a... look at me, this is my moment not yours Brendon, speech and all polished and shiny/smiling into the cameras...all we were lacking was that Colgate smile sparkle... with the severity of the case, this was Brendon's life he was smiling about while he was almost checking his hair...I did warm to Dean Strang straight away though..a completely different first impression...

Originally Posted by Josy

That Len guy was a judge for a while

..yeah you're right Josy, he had run for judge/not politician and came third or something just before the trial...this was his first court appointed case, so maybe he took it because he thought it could help with his career or was told it would....

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I bet your TV throwing urges started with his first words about Brandon, DR.. "we have a 16 year old who was, while morally and legally responsible, was heavily influenced by someone who was evil incarnate"
...such a... look at me, this is my moment not yours Brendon, speech and all polished and shiny/smiling into the cameras...all we were lacking was that Colgate smile sparkle... with the severity of the case, this was Brendon's life he was smiling about while he was almost checking his hair...I did warm to Dean Strang straight away though..a completely different first impression...

Court appointed lawyers tend to be the crud that nobody else wants but this guy was unbelievable.
Whilst we may moan about people in this country getting of on technicalities, I'm glad we're not tolerant of crooked lawyers or get away with kangaroo courts like that.

I really liked Strang as well. He reminded me a lot of my dentist for some strange reason.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Court appointed lawyers tend to be the crud that nobody else wants but this guy was unbelievable.

Whilst we may moan about people in this country getting of on technicalities, I'm glad we're not tolerant of crooked lawyers or get away with kangaroo courts like that.



I really liked Strang as well. He reminded me a lot of my dentist for some strange reason.

I read in one article as well that because both Strang and Buting are such likeable guys and Kratz is such a creep it's much easier to see Steve as the good guy and the state as the baddies


Strang reminded me of Michael McIntyre

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Court appointed lawyers tend to be the crud that nobody else wants but this guy was unbelievable.
Whilst we may moan about people in this country getting of on technicalities, I'm glad we're not tolerant of crooked lawyers or get away with kangaroo courts like that.

I really liked Strang as well. He reminded me a lot of my dentist for some strange reason.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...lix-sex-symbol

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...lix-sex-symbol

Steady on now, I wouldn't go that far

[Ammi]

...Girth revealing his secret crush, eh......so it was never anything to do with conspiracies or an interesting case hmmm, it was always Dean, was it...

[Ammi]

..I know my theory is way out there and probably nothing like but the more I think about it, the more I'm still leaning toward Steven being guilty because it's the most logical and most probable/the last person to see her alive...there are lots of possible suspects, I know...and suspicious behaviour could be interpreted with many but Steven has a disturbing 'profile' and her charred remains/car lead to him...anything else to me would just involve too many 'coincidence' type things/maybe two people (the killer and the police dept..).. working at the same time to frame him etc...so we can look at possibilities, and yes...these things are possible, we can always make paths fit but just less probable than the more obvious to me...and isn't it usually the obvious...

...I think it was Girth that said...hmmm, but the timing of it, when he was just about to win a huge lawsuit, well that doesn't sit right....and yeah, that's a possible thing but then if you flip that over, then the timing of someone/Teresa being murdered at that 'perfect time' as well/what were the chances..?..OMG, look at this, we can use this to convict him again and all solved/how great did this turn out, phew.....I do think that there were mistakes made though and the police entered the property in an eagerness to arrest him, but that doesn't mean to say that they weren't correct to feel for sure it was him...and probably lessons to be learned in general..also some complete incompetence....the forensic specialist, well she messed up in both crimes..(for all we know she may have messed up in 20 crimes, but we only know of these 2, so is she basically unable to do her job..?..)...I mean, a judicial system just can't have people with such a vital, key role, being inept..so that seriously needs looking at...I guess that I disagree with DR as well in that what this is highlighted are 'human failings/flaws/errors' and I think this could and probably happens with any justice system/here in the UK as well, it's just that we're not so aware of them but there are wrongful convictions etc and mistakes made, for the simple reason of 'human'...but all in all, these are still systems that we have to put faith in because they're all we have and for the most part, do work....we just have to put trust in, the same way as we do with surgeons etc and trusting with our lives..but humans are open to error...

..I don't know with Brendon, of his involvement/if any or none at all but he's a very vulnerable and pliable person so would fairly much, I think...do or say whatever was asked of him..'Brendon can you...'..'yes of course..'...so if he did play a part in Teresa's murder, yes manipulated and instructed into doing it, I would think, so of a much lesser guilt but can that mean he's not a danger to the public, should he be a free man..if in an environment of 'bad/evil', could he do again...but placed in a good and positive environment though..how could that be guaranteed, it couldn't...he to me is the ultimate of complete failings everywhere around him, just so terrible sad...



...I do think the thing is here as Josy has said and has been said from the get go..'the right to a fair trial' for both of them but at the same time...can either ever have that now/is that even a possibility/has that 'right' passed because of the time lapse now...sadly I'm not sure that's possible anymore...but I do think because of any other explanation, involving coincidences/coming togethers/and highly complicated things/corruptions involving multiple persons etc, that my logic is saying that Steven is most likely guilty and killed Teresa...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I know my theory is way out there and probably nothing like but the more I think about it, the more I'm still leaning toward Steven being guilty because it's the most logical and most probable/the last person to see her alive...there are lots of possible suspects, I know...and suspicious behaviour could be interpreted with many but Steven has a disturbing 'profile' and her charred remains/car lead to him...anything else to me would just involve too many 'coincidence' type things/maybe two people (the killer and the police dept..).. working at the same time to frame him etc...so we can look at possibilities, and yes...these things are possible, we can always make paths fit but just less probable than the more obvious to me...and isn't it usually the obvious...

...I think it was Girth that said...hmmm, but the timing of it, when he was just about to win a huge lawsuit, well that doesn't sit right....and yeah, that's a possible thing but then if you flip that over, then the timing of someone/Teresa being murdered at that 'perfect time' as well/what were the chances..?..OMG, look at this, we can use this to convict him again and all solved/how great did this turn out, phew.....I do think that there were mistakes made though and the police entered the property in an eagerness to arrest him, but that doesn't mean to say that they weren't correct to feel for sure it was him...and probably lessons to be learned in general..also some complete incompetence....the forensic specialist, well she messed up in both crimes..(for all we know she may have messed up in 20 crimes, but we only know of these 2, so is she basically unable to do her job..?..)...I mean, a judicial system just can't have people with such a vital, key role, being inept..so that seriously needs looking at...I guess that I disagree with DR as well in that what this is highlighted are 'human failings/flaws/errors' and I think this could and probably happens with any justice system/here in the UK as well, it's just that we're not so aware of them but there are wrongful convictions etc and mistakes made, for the simple reason of 'human'...but all in all, these are still systems that we have to put faith in because they're all we have and for the most part, do work....we just have to put trust in, the same way as we do with surgeons etc and trusting with our lives..but humans are open to error...

..I don't know with Brendon, of his involvement/if any or none at all but he's a very vulnerable and pliable person so would fairly much, I think...do or say whatever was asked of him..'Brendon can you...'..'yes of course..'...so if he did play a part in Teresa's murder, yes manipulated and instructed into doing it, I would think, so of a much lesser guilt but can that mean he's not a danger to the public, should he be a free man..if in an environment of 'bad/evil', could he do again...but placed in a good and positive environment though..how could that be guaranteed, it couldn't...he to me is the ultimate of complete failings everywhere around him, just so terrible sad...



...I do think the thing is here as Josy has said and has been said from the get go..'the right to a fair trial' for both of them but at the same time...can either ever have that now/is that even a possibility/has that 'right' passed because of the time lapse now...sadly I'm not sure that's possible anymore...but I do think because of any other explanation, involving coincidences/coming togethers/and highly complicated things/corruptions involving multiple persons etc, that my logic is saying that Steven is most likely guilty and killed Teresa...

Yeah I wasn't joking when i said I liked your theory, personally i think it's most plausible.

Yeah the timing could be considered off but then again when would be the ideal time to murder someone if you're a murderer? When he's won his lawsuit and has 36million? Does money stop a murderer from being a murderer? I don't think so