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Niamh. · 08-02-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Who does he think did it then? And why is he so sure he knows who did or didn't do it?

Josy · 08-02-2016, 07:24 PM

Maybe his lawyer doesn't want him mentioning names or something.

Bit odd that he said at one point one of his brothers could have done it though.

Josy · 08-02-2016, 07:24 PM

That was his new layer that posted that on twiter

Ammi · 08-02-2016, 07:26 PM

..I still think 'to all my supporters' that he has some kind of perverted addiction to being 'the innocent man' and the positive attention it gives him...

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Niamh. · 08-02-2016, 07:31 PM

He says "it's obvious who killed her" though, is it? Who then?

Niamh. · 08-02-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I still think 'to all my supporters' that he has some kind of perverted addiction to being 'the innocent man' and the positive attention it gives him...

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Yeah I think your theory is the best one yet

Josy · 08-02-2016, 07:33 PM

Hes only started saying 'my supporters' since his family have been telling him of the petitions and stuff going on for both him and Brendan, some of the fb pages have nearly a million followers and they have been sending them both letters and money.

Drew. · 08-02-2016, 07:34 PM

His family are raking in the money living the high life on behalf of him it seems

Josy · 08-02-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew.

His family are raking in the money living the high life on behalf of him it seems

The family don't accept any money as far as I'm aware, all cheques have to be made out to the prisons for their accounts in there and then there's another fundraising thing for the lawyer for the new forensic tests and stuff

Josy · 08-02-2016, 07:39 PM

Oh wait apparently people send both Stevens mum and Brendans mum fuel cards for travelling to and fro the prisons

Ammi · 08-02-2016, 07:40 PM

..the travel was around 120/150-ish miles away as well, wasn't it...

Josy · 08-02-2016, 07:43 PM

Brendan was only half an hour away but he was moved a couple of weeks ago and it's around 3 hour drive there and the same back.

Not sure about Steven or where he is etc

DemolitionRed · 08-02-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I bet your TV throwing urges started with his first words about Brandon, DR.. "we have a 16 year old who was, while morally and legally responsible, was heavily influenced by someone who was evil incarnate"
...such a... look at me, this is my moment not yours Brendon, speech and all polished and shiny/smiling into the cameras...all we were lacking was that Colgate smile sparkle... with the severity of the case, this was Brendon's life he was smiling about while he was almost checking his hair...I did warm to Dean Strang straight away though..a completely different first impression...

Court appointed lawyers tend to be the crud that nobody else wants but this guy was unbelievable.
Whilst we may moan about people in this country getting of on technicalities, I'm glad we're not tolerant of crooked lawyers or get away with kangaroo courts like that.

I really liked Strang as well. He reminded me a lot of my dentist for some strange reason.

Niamh. · 08-02-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Court appointed lawyers tend to be the crud that nobody else wants but this guy was unbelievable.

Whilst we may moan about people in this country getting of on technicalities, I'm glad we're not tolerant of crooked lawyers or get away with kangaroo courts like that.

I really liked Strang as well. He reminded me a lot of my dentist for some strange reason.

I read in one article as well that because both Strang and Buting are such likeable guys and Kratz is such a creep it's much easier to see Steve as the good guy and the state as the baddies

Strang reminded me of Michael McIntyre

GiRTh · 08-02-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Court appointed lawyers tend to be the crud that nobody else wants but this guy was unbelievable.
Whilst we may moan about people in this country getting of on technicalities, I'm glad we're not tolerant of crooked lawyers or get away with kangaroo courts like that.

I really liked Strang as well. He reminded me a lot of my dentist for some strange reason.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...lix-sex-symbol

Niamh. · 08-02-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...lix-sex-symbol

Steady on now, I wouldn't go that far

Ammi · 09-02-2016, 05:57 AM

...Girth revealing his secret crush, eh...

...so it was never anything to do with conspiracies or an interesting case hmmm, it was always Dean, was it...

GiRTh · 09-02-2016, 06:25 AM

Ammi · 09-02-2016, 06:31 AM

..I know my theory is way out there and probably nothing like but the more I think about it, the more I'm still leaning toward Steven being guilty because it's the most logical and most probable/the last person to see her alive...there are lots of possible suspects, I know...and suspicious behaviour could be interpreted with many but Steven has a disturbing 'profile' and her charred remains/car lead to him...anything else to me would just involve too many 'coincidence' type things/maybe two people (the killer and the police dept..).. working at the same time to frame him etc...so we can look at possibilities, and yes...these things are possible, we can always make paths fit but just less probable than the more obvious to me...and isn't it usually the obvious...

...I think it was Girth that said...hmmm, but the timing of it, when he was just about to win a huge lawsuit, well that doesn't sit right....and yeah, that's a possible thing but then if you flip that over, then the timing of someone/Teresa being murdered at that 'perfect time' as well/what were the chances..?..OMG, look at this, we can use this to convict him again and all solved/how great did this turn out, phew.....I do think that there were mistakes made though and the police entered the property in an eagerness to arrest him, but that doesn't mean to say that they weren't correct to feel for sure it was him...and probably lessons to be learned in general..also some complete incompetence....the forensic specialist, well she messed up in both crimes..(for all we know she may have messed up in 20 crimes, but we only know of these 2, so is she basically unable to do her job..?..)...I mean, a judicial system just can't have people with such a vital, key role, being inept..so that seriously needs looking at...I guess that I disagree with DR as well in that what this is highlighted are 'human failings/flaws/errors' and I think this could and probably happens with any justice system/here in the UK as well, it's just that we're not so aware of them but there are wrongful convictions etc and mistakes made, for the simple reason of 'human'...but all in all, these are still systems that we have to put faith in because they're all we have and for the most part, do work....we just have to put trust in, the same way as we do with surgeons etc and trusting with our lives..but humans are open to error...

..I don't know with Brendon, of his involvement/if any or none at all but he's a very vulnerable and pliable person so would fairly much, I think...do or say whatever was asked of him..'Brendon can you...'..'yes of course..'...so if he did play a part in Teresa's murder, yes manipulated and instructed into doing it, I would think, so of a much lesser guilt but can that mean he's not a danger to the public, should he be a free man..if in an environment of 'bad/evil', could he do again...but placed in a good and positive environment though..how could that be guaranteed, it couldn't...he to me is the ultimate of complete failings everywhere around him, just so terrible sad...

...I do think the thing is here as Josy has said and has been said from the get go..'the right to a fair trial' for both of them but at the same time...can either ever have that now/is that even a possibility/has that 'right' passed because of the time lapse now...sadly I'm not sure that's possible anymore...but I do think because of any other explanation, involving coincidences/coming togethers/and highly complicated things/corruptions involving multiple persons etc, that my logic is saying that Steven is most likely guilty and killed Teresa...

Ammi · 09-02-2016, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

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...see you got there in the end, Girth...you know we wouldn't have judged you if you had just said that at the beginning...we're all understanding of a bit of Dean love....

Ammi · 09-02-2016, 06:34 AM

...actually it looks as though he has nail polish on his toes in that pic...you like that, eh...his feminine side..

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Niamh. · 09-02-2016, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Niamh. · 09-02-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I know my theory is way out there and probably nothing like but the more I think about it, the more I'm still leaning toward Steven being guilty because it's the most logical and most probable/the last person to see her alive...there are lots of possible suspects, I know...and suspicious behaviour could be interpreted with many but Steven has a disturbing 'profile' and her charred remains/car lead to him...anything else to me would just involve too many 'coincidence' type things/maybe two people (the killer and the police dept..).. working at the same time to frame him etc...so we can look at possibilities, and yes...these things are possible, we can always make paths fit but just less probable than the more obvious to me...and isn't it usually the obvious...

...I think it was Girth that said...hmmm, but the timing of it, when he was just about to win a huge lawsuit, well that doesn't sit right....and yeah, that's a possible thing but then if you flip that over, then the timing of someone/Teresa being murdered at that 'perfect time' as well/what were the chances..?..OMG, look at this, we can use this to convict him again and all solved/how great did this turn out, phew.....I do think that there were mistakes made though and the police entered the property in an eagerness to arrest him, but that doesn't mean to say that they weren't correct to feel for sure it was him...and probably lessons to be learned in general..also some complete incompetence....the forensic specialist, well she messed up in both crimes..(for all we know she may have messed up in 20 crimes, but we only know of these 2, so is she basically unable to do her job..?..)...I mean, a judicial system just can't have people with such a vital, key role, being inept..so that seriously needs looking at...I guess that I disagree with DR as well in that what this is highlighted are 'human failings/flaws/errors' and I think this could and probably happens with any justice system/here in the UK as well, it's just that we're not so aware of them but there are wrongful convictions etc and mistakes made, for the simple reason of 'human'...but all in all, these are still systems that we have to put faith in because they're all we have and for the most part, do work....we just have to put trust in, the same way as we do with surgeons etc and trusting with our lives..but humans are open to error...

..I don't know with Brendon, of his involvement/if any or none at all but he's a very vulnerable and pliable person so would fairly much, I think...do or say whatever was asked of him..'Brendon can you...'..'yes of course..'...so if he did play a part in Teresa's murder, yes manipulated and instructed into doing it, I would think, so of a much lesser guilt but can that mean he's not a danger to the public, should he be a free man..if in an environment of 'bad/evil', could he do again...but placed in a good and positive environment though..how could that be guaranteed, it couldn't...he to me is the ultimate of complete failings everywhere around him, just so terrible sad...

...I do think the thing is here as Josy has said and has been said from the get go..'the right to a fair trial' for both of them but at the same time...can either ever have that now/is that even a possibility/has that 'right' passed because of the time lapse now...sadly I'm not sure that's possible anymore...but I do think because of any other explanation, involving coincidences/coming togethers/and highly complicated things/corruptions involving multiple persons etc, that my logic is saying that Steven is most likely guilty and killed Teresa...

Yeah I wasn't joking when i said I liked your theory, personally i think it's most plausible.

Yeah the timing could be considered off but then again when would be the ideal time to murder someone if you're a murderer? When he's won his lawsuit and has 36million? Does money stop a murderer from being a murderer? I don't think so