[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You know something,with absolute full respect, I see absolutely no point of of doing so whatsoever just for you to come back with your usual insulting put downs of those with opinions you disagree with.

With respect why you ask questions about religion and God/s is a mystery to me because all you do is use any answers from others to put down those that may look at religion and God/s more positively or open mindedly than you.

if you open your mind too much joey your brain will fall out

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if you open your mind too much joey your brain will fall out

I am very happy as I am am thank you, I need no guidance from you at all as to how I should be.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am very happy as I am am thank you, I need no guidance from you at all as to how I should be.

Bit closed minded of you Joey I am surprised

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Surely religious people believe that god isn't a physical entity, and non religious people believe that god doesn't exist. Does that not answer the OP?

The question of 'why is it acceptable to make fun of religious people' is a really interesting debate though. Mainly because the most common insult that usually gets thrown at religious people is that the whole concept is stupid (the implication being that the religious person is stupid for believing), and yet we know that intelligence has no bearing on whether or not someone has faith. You get plenty of stupid and intelligent people on both sides of the argument. So how does someone who is a non believer reconcile in their minds that even though they believe the concept of a religion is stupid, someone with equal or even greater intelligence to them might believe in said religion? Does this not automatically negate the 'religions are stupid' idea, and if so, does that not make it a meaningless insult? In which case, why is that acceptable during a debate about religion? (Comedy/satire etc is different and in context is perfectly acceptable as a way of poking fun at anyone imo, but I'm referring to making fun of religion during a debate.) Most of the questioning on here seems to be aimed at believers so there's one for the atheists (Personally I don't believe in god but I can't know for certain that I'm right. I'm stupid though, so )

So Jaimie how do you reconcile the fact that in general when a country develops and educates its population religion dwindles and the fact that the most religious countries by far are the least developed?

Its not hard to look at say India or Norway or Nigeria and France


Educate the people and the need for gods is massively reduced

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Bit closed minded of you Joey I am surprised

Just carry on, it is what I expect from you anyway, blatant sarcasm.
I knew that would be likely the case when I responded to your response to me so now I or anyone else, who may be on the receiving end just have to let you get on with it I guess.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not really as the question was why is it with all the thousands of gods that man has created for himself are they all, and i cant off my head think of any that are not, invisible?"

Its not just at the god you dont believe in (and remember that every "believer" in this thread is 100% atheist about every other god )

As you've said though, believers are atheist towards other gods therefore it's just a case of them believing that their god is a non-physical entity, and believing that the other gods don't exist. (I don't want to speak for religious people, but I'm assuming that this is the case.)

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So Jaimie how do you reconcile the fact that in general when a country develops and educates its population religion dwindles and the fact that the most religious countries by far are the least developed?

Its not hard to look at say India or Norway or Nigeria and France


Educate the people and the need for gods is massively reduced

I'm not sure but I still disagree with the implication that intelligence is a factor in whether or not someone is religious. So personally I can't reconcile it. But then again by only choosing those facts, and ignoring that there are many intelligent/educated/developed people who are religious, you haven't been able to either

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I'm not sure but I still disagree with the implication that intelligence is a factor in whether or not someone is religious. So personally I can't reconcile it. But then again by only choosing those facts, and ignoring that there are many intelligent/educated/developed people who are religious, you haven't been able to either

Taking aside that it would be difficult to say who an intelligent person is and who isnt

What do you think would be say the percentage split of intelligent people who believe and those who do not?

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Taking aside that it would be difficult to say who an intelligent person is and who isnt

What do you think would be say the percentage split of intelligent people who believe and those who do not?

I have absolutely no idea

Do you?

I don't think it's relevant though, because regardless of numbers, there are still intelligent educated people who are religious so I don't see how it can be suggested that it's a lack of those things which are the cause of someone being religious.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I have absolutely no idea

Do you?

I don't think it's relevant though, because regardless of numbers, there are still intelligent educated people who are religious so I don't see how it can be suggested that it's a lack of those things which are the cause of someone being religious.

my guess would be 96/4% in say the UK



Not so much intelligence as education is my point on countries- Indian people are not stupid they are just poorly educated for example - same for any 3rd world country where religion and superstition flourishes

Educate them and the need for religion will dissapear like snow off a dyke in April

[Mokka]

There is always somebody somewhere who has studied the question LT... you just have to look

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amarna..._b_749630.html

[AnnieK]

Blimey....17 pages of this??? Unbelievable

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mokka

There is always somebody somewhere who has studied the question LT... you just have to look

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amarna..._b_749630.html

ah but mokka you did not study the question here

only jamie mentioned intelligence and religion

i mentioned education and religion




but if you wish to look at studies for some fun


here is a much larger one

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cientific.html


"The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.

In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’.

In just 10 was that relationship positive.
"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Blimey....17 pages of this??? Unbelievable

really?

The Hot Girl Thread has 130 pages

[Kizzy]

Anyhoo the answer is goddesses are visible...I'm proof

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wow does your religion give you insight into hormonal fluctuations of females over the internet? That's cool, can I change my mind I'm in!

My religion? Female hormones? What?

I merely commented on the fact that you've done nothing but respond to every single one of my posts with attitude attached to them. I haven't pretended to know the state of your hormones. Nor do I wish to know.

You don't need to be psychic to read "Oh so you want to dance with me too?" as a bizarrely confrontational response when I first enter the thread.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Blimey....17 pages of this??? Unbelievable

Welcome to off season

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

My religion? Female hormones? What?

I merely commented on the fact that you've done nothing but respond to every single one of my posts with attitude attached to them. I haven't pretended to know the state of your hormones. Nor do I wish to know.

You don't need to be psychic to read "Oh so you want to dance with me too?" as a bizarrely confrontational response when I first enter the thread.

Aw, if I've upset you I apologise.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Aw, if I've upset you I apologise.

It was the female hormones that broke him

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was the female hormones that broke him

Sensitive types these religious Cherie, one min he's suggesting I bang LT and then goes all puritanical

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Aw, if I've upset you I apologise.

Not a jot love. Just a reminder to kindly take your patronising comments to someone who naively accepts them.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not a jot love. Just a reminder to kindly take your patronising comments to someone who naively accepts them.

'I think Kizzy's single so go and make sweet love.' Can I suggest the same for your inappropriate remarks then? Thank you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'I think Kizzy's single so go and make sweet love.' Can I suggest the same for your inappropriate remarks then? Thank you.

I only dish out what I'm given.

If you would like a mature and respectful discussion, then begin with one.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was the female hormones that broke him

BUT After being unjustly sentenced to more than 32 years in Tibb Towers and after withstanding all the inhumane torture and abuse which such a sentence entails, it will take a hell of a lot more than 'female hormones' to break our beloved Marsh.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I only dish out what I'm given.

If you would like a mature and respectful discussion, then begin with one.

May I remind you your opening response to me in this thread was 'Eh?'
Take the log from your own eye perhaps.