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Originally Posted by LukeB

The twists were awful on both 15/16 but the final pass and the killer nomination tops the list. Taking away power from Toya and Ashleigh is up there too. It's like taking an HOH away from someone.

I'm comparing them because they both made their seasons awful for different reasons(not saying they are fully the same because obvs they are not). Both Amanda and Helen both bullied someone and acted aggressively towards people and both are *****(but Amanda took it too far) .Just comparing them on their one trick pony contribution to the season and both made their seasons awful.

I do get you love shouting housemates because it's tv gold but it;s just boring

Err...no, 4In4Out tops the list. Easily the worst twist the producers have concocted since the final-ruining quad eviction, since it was actually a promising start to the series up until that point and it killed it in one night, never to recover again. I agree the Toya thing was a farce but for the most part the twists benefited and were rigged for the right people so idc

...I don't actually think BB15 US was that awful in hindsight, it's a damn sight better than the monotonous BB16 was. Despite all what happened, if nothing else it was gripping. We're never going to agree on Helen bullying someone in BB15 and it's best we don't turn this into yet another debate on that because it will go nowhere, but no matter how much of a **** she was, she has nothing on a woman that made racist, homophobic, xenophobic remarks, relentlessly bullied one particular houseguest up to and including trying to slam her with a metal door and dragging her step-kids into an argument saying she was a terrible mother, they don't love her and 'should've been swallowed' the two are not comparable no matter how hard you try because Scumanda wasn't the only part of her season. Plus, I still don't get how Ashleigh can at all be compared to her?!?! like lmao what on earth?!

As for the bit in bold, I am seriously sick and ****ing tired of you deliberately repeating that same line over and over and over again, despite the fact I have refuted it on several occasions , all of which you have seemingly ignored. I don't know how many times I need to explain it before it goes in but it's a really pathetic go-to line you seem to use when you're losing an argument, so will you please stop it?