[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

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Utter nonsense Livia, no one steps out of their front door wearing what the guy in that picture is wearing without it being a deliberate statement. Come on. It's like seeing someone wearing a space suit and saying "Don't be judgemental guys, don't assume he's dressed as an astronaut, he might just be feeling chilly!"

I understand that you never consider the fact you may be wrong TS, and I know that you feel free to speak to me like I'm a child who's never had an original thought... but overlooking all that... your premise that it's okay to stereotype some people on what they're wearing but not others is utterly preposterous. You'll be telling me next that the woman in the short skirt is a slut.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I understand that you never consider the fact you may be wrong TS, and I know that you feel free to speak to me like I'm a child who's never had an original thought... but overlooking all that... your premise that it's okay to stereotype some people on what they're wearing but not others is utterly preposterous. You'll be telling me next that the woman in the short skirt is a slut.

I'll admit it, I might be wrong. He might be a really nice skinhead. In fact, all skinheads might be stand-up members of the community. They're just misunderstood!

[Ammi]

...wearing an astronaut suit would be representative of what someone does for a living though, so not the same thing at all as describing a stereotype...

...anyway, off topic...I have to say that even though my views are different to Liv's...she's not really saying anything different to what many have said in the thread previously but I am noticing that with you TS..you very often only quote her posts as the ones you will choose to 'disagree with'...and in a way, as Liv has just said of..'don't be silly Livia'...'rubbish Livia' and etc, etc..in a very condescending and patronising way...not a way anyway, which would open any debate and communication between you both, so it doesn't seem as though that's actually the purpose....it's starting to feel 'singling out' and it's starting to feel uncomfortable ..(in quite a few threads..)...


..(sorry Liv, but it's something I've noticed and I couldn't not say anything..)...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...wearing an astronaut suit would be representative of what someone does for a living though, so not the same thing at all as describing a stereotype...

...anyway, off topic...I have to say that even though my views are different to Liv's...she's not really saying anything different to what many have said in the thread previously but I am noticing that with you TS..you very often only quote her posts as the ones you will choose to 'disagree with'...and in a way, as Liv has just said of..'don't be silly Livia'...'rubbish Livia' and etc, etc..in a very condescending and patronising way...not a way anyway, which would open any debate and communication between you both, so it doesn't seem as though that's actually the purpose....it's starting to feel 'singling out' and it's starting to feel uncomfortable ..(in quite a few threads..)...


..(sorry Liv, but it's something I've noticed and I couldn't not say anything..)...

Really Ammi? Really though? When we can just click the links to previous pages and actually read what happened in this thread?

First communication between me and Livia in this thread:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because hardcore Brexit skinheads are likely to be the first lined up at the voting booths when it comes to the EU referrendum, whereas older females of ethnic minorities are amoungst the least likely to vote at all - even though the vote greatly affects them. These women are being encouraged to make sure they vote, in order to "counter-balance" what is certain to be a 100% turnout for British nationalist extremists all voting "out".

NOT directed at ANYONE in particular, was then quoted by Livia, responding with;

Originally Posted by Livia

And there was me thinking it was a thoughtless, lazy bit of stereotyping.

First time it got a bit snippy and personal:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Now that's not entirely true either though, is it. His clothing (white shirt, light blue jeans, high boots) is practically "white supremacist skinhead" uniform. All he's missing is the green bomber jacket. Stereotype? Yes, but it's a very specific one and doesn't include "all white men with tattoos and a bald head", nor does it suggest that all men of that description are white supremacists.

Originally Posted by Livia

If you want to judge every book by its cover, then you crack on TS.

Originally Posted by Ammi

not a way anyway, which would open any debate and communication between you both, so it doesn't seem as though that's actually the purpose...

Errrr.... yeah.


She then decided to, unfathomably, go on to point out that *I* started patronising *her*



Take your bias elsewhere Ammi, I don't have time for it and I'm not willing to be accused of something that, in this case at the very least, can be quite clearly demonstrated to be untrue

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...wearing an astronaut suit would be representative of what someone does for a living though, so not the same thing at all as describing a stereotype...

...anyway, off topic...I have to say that even though my views are different to Liv's...she's not really saying anything different to what many have said in the thread previously but I am noticing that with you TS..you very often only quote her posts as the ones you will choose to 'disagree with'...and in a way, as Liv has just said of..'don't be silly Livia'...'rubbish Livia' and etc, etc..in a very condescending and patronising way...not a way anyway, which would open any debate and communication between you both, so it doesn't seem as though that's actually the purpose....it's starting to feel 'singling out' and it's starting to feel uncomfortable ..(in quite a few threads..)...


..(sorry Liv, but it's something I've noticed and I couldn't not say anything..)...

Sorry Ammi but here I have to interject as you have ( being part of the discussion and all) when nobody on this forum posts in a way that could be considered condecending and/or patronising ( including Livia) we'll all comply, do we have a deal?