[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't see anything wrong with gender neutral toilets but one issue could arise..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i have a feeling marsh does it

Only in the middle of the night when I'm tired.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't see anything wrong with gender neutral toilets but one issue could arise.
I assume there would be no urinals?So what about drunk men who pee on the seat?Women won't like that.Unless there's a section with a small wall in there with urinals.So really a non neutral mens section.
Also what about used tampons on the floor?Men won't like that.Not massive issues but people won't like them too much.

Tampons on the floor, you can flush them you know

[T*]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tampons on the floor, you can flush them you know

you can flush ya gush?!!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Tom*

you can flush ya gush?!!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Tom*

you can flush ya gush?!!

Monkey is worried about tampons on the floor, I was reassuring him they can be flushed so it's unlikely he will encounter many

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

This seems like such a pointless debate over something that doesn't need fixing. I've been to plenty of events where people drink a lot/theres groups of men just out to cause trouble to know that them being given the chance to roam free around a place where a woman needs privacy is a recipe for disaster. It's easy to say "you wouldn't be alone" but that doesn't matter, even in a group women are sill vulnerable. Anyway like i said this discussion just seems pointless, theres no need for gender neutral toilets and more harm than good would come from them anyway

Do you have any stats for that because most of the research that's been done around this says there's no increased threat from them whatsoever?

There's plenty of need for gender neutral toilets and I'd put money on them being the norm in the West in fifty years time

Originally Posted by MTVN

For those hell bent on carrying out rape maybe. But a lot of rapists are very opportunistic and don't meticulously plan out their attack. I don't think its ridiculous to say that someone who otherwise wouldn't carry out an attack might end up doing so because they see an opportunity.

Yeah and that opportunity would be 'oh look, that woman just entered the bathroom on her own, how about I follow her?'

With more people in there, the less likely it becomes feasible

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tampons on the floor, you can flush them you know

I aint picking up no strangers used jamrags

[Samm]

Yes I would, but I don't think they should become the norm, I'm all here for the transgendre movement and if they identify as female or male they should use whatever bathroom they want

but allowing a gender-neural bathroom is worrying for me since I wouldn't want any of my female friends or mum for example to use them because men would be lurking around and there's a lot of creeps out there.

[DemolitionRed]

I don't like going into a room with urinals because they smell awful but when you have to go, you have to go.

In France nobody worries about guys using the ladies or ladies using the mens.

[AnnieK]

I personally would use them...in Manchester there are a few bars and clubs that already have them. With regards to issues of rape etc I would worry more that there could be more false accusations of assaults which will prove harder to disprove if all genders are using the same bathroom than of more attacks happening

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Samm

Yes I would, but I don't think they should become the norm, I'm all here for the transgendre movement and if they identify as female or male they should use whatever bathroom they want

but allowing a gender-neural bathroom is worrying for me since I wouldn't want any of my female friends or mum for example to use them because men would be lurking around and there's a lot of creeps out there.

If men want to lurk around women in bathrooms, they'll do it with the split ones we have already since it's easier to act alone and not be caught. A sign above a door doesn't stop anyone from creeping about

tbh even I as a man would feel safer using a gender neutral bathroom than a men's only one

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Do you have any stats for that because most of the research that's been done around this says there's no increased threat from them whatsoever?

No, i dont have any stats on public toilets..

It's just my opinion.

[DemolitionRed]

There are many instances where little girls have to go into the men's room because they are out with daddy and are too young to go to the loo on their own. I think a father would feel more comfortable taking his daughter into a gender neutral toilet.

When my sons were old enough to go to the loo on their own, I always felt a little nervous about them using a male toilet of which I had no access to.

[Greg!]

ok lets just have segregated classrooms, restaurants, swimming pools, parks, and shops because some people feel uncomfortable being close to a certain gender

You're no more likely to be attacked in a toilet than anywhere else

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

ok lets just have segregated classrooms, restaurants, swimming pools, parks, and shops because some people feel uncomfortable being close to a certain gender

You're no more likely to be attacked in a toilet than anywhere else

Exactly, and most rapes happen at the hands of people the victim knows anyway

This thread is akin to the foaming Republicans screaming about trans people using the bathroom that matches up with the gender they identify with, making up unfounded claims about harassment and increased violence. It's all nonsense

[Black Dagger]

If I need a piss I need a piss, if a woman is applying make-up in there or doing ladies things idk what you lot do in public restrooms but television seems to imply you hang around in there then I'm going to go regardless, they'll be cubicles anyway, not like I'm going to see your minge or you're going to see my love length.

[MTVN]

Well on the same note we could say lets just have gender neutral changing rooms because some people are comfortable with it Imagine if the swimming pool or a gym suddenly said that they were scrapping separate male/female changing rooms. Some progressives might be unbothered but I think the majority would find it all a bit weird

[JoshBB]

Just have a gender-neutral alternative while keeping traditional male/female toilets. Sorted! As long as it's all cubicles, there literally would be no problem because what anyone does in the cubicle next to you is none of your business

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well on the same note we could say lets just have gender neutral changing rooms because some people are comfortable with it Imagine if the swimming pool or a gym suddenly said that they were scrapping separate male/female changing rooms. Some progressives might be unbothered but I think the majority would find it all a bit weird

As long as the changing rooms had cubicles for privacy I wouldn't have a problem with that either. No one should be looking at anyone getting changed anyway

[Firewire]

One thing I don't get is gendered changing rooms in shops. I got ushered out of the female one because I was waiting on my 10 year old sister. there's a number of cubicles. I'm not there to spy a bit of vag.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

As long as the changing rooms had cubicles for privacy I wouldn't have a problem with that either. No one should be looking at anyone getting changed anyway

I agree, gym and some swimming pool changing rooms that are just one big room are ****ing disgusting and I try to avoid them like the plague

I come to swim, not see some 70 year old man's droopy cock flapping around in my eyeline while he towel dries his crusty arse

Changing rooms and toilets with cubicles only are the way forward

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well on the same note we could say lets just have gender neutral changing rooms because some people are comfortable with it Imagine if the swimming pool or a gym suddenly said that they were scrapping separate male/female changing rooms. Some progressives might be unbothered but I think the majority would find it all a bit weird

My local swimming pool has combined changing rooms...with cubicles obviously no one seems to have an issue with it

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I come to swim, not see some 70 year old man's droopy cock flapping around in my eyeline while he towel dries his crusty arse

Lmao yes changing rooms with no cubicles are vile

[Firewire]

Same here, every swimming pool I have been to has one big room with cubicles and isn't gendered. No reports of any rapes there. I saw a couple shagging once though.