[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am sorry that you seem to find it difficult to believe that you may be wrong about things

Nope, just that obvious baiting is obvious

No sane person denies this is an issue so that's why it's BS, sorry LT but your faux defence of the police anytime there's a negative thread about them doesn't wash with me

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Nope, just that obvious baiting is obvious

No sane person denies this is an issue so that's why it's BS, sorry LT but your faux defence of the police anytime there's a negative thread about them doesn't wash with me

i stick with evidence and fact not mass hysteria and mob justice

If you cant deal with that , tough

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i stick with evidence and fact not mass hysteria and mob justice

If you cant deal with that , tough

The evidence and facts actually stack up against your pretend argument, but you know that already

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The evidence and facts actually stack up against your pretend argument, but you know that already

well when they arrive i will let you know

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i stick with evidence and fact not mass hysteria and mob justice

If you cant deal with that , tough

What I find strange is that more white people have actually been killed by cops than any other race this year, yet no one seems to be protesting over that?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...gs-us-database

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

What I find strange is that more white people have actually been killed by cops than any other race this year, yet no one seems to be protesting over that?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...gs-us-database

..it's not really the volume of those killed by the police though, Caitlin...whether there have been more white people than black people..?...it's whether those white people were 'justifiably' killed and whether there was no alternative because of the threat they were being at the time ...it seems that sadly too often, black people are killed by the police when there have been alternatives to loss of life in those situations...so that would be the comparison to make...

[Ammi]

..excellent insight and heart-felt post, Maru...I can't imagine how it must be for you when your partner is out in his working day.....

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's not really the volume of those killed by the police though, Caitlin...whether there have been more white people than black people..?...it's whether those white people were 'justifiably' killed and whether there was no alternative because of the threat they were being at the time ...it seems that sadly too often, black people are killed by the police when there have been alternatives to loss of life in those situations...so that would be the comparison to make...

We wouldn't know whether they were 'justifiably' killed or not though, because no one kicks up a fuss about it when they are white.

This sounds like I'm one of those 'WHITE LIVES MATTER!!!!!!!!' people but I'm not. I hate those people.

I'm just saying that I don't think its a race thing like people claim it is. If it was, there would be far, far many more POC killed than white people.

Perhaps we do need to look more into who we do employ as a police officer. But again, its a tricky one, we will never know how difficult it is to be an officer. I once watched this and I thought it was pretty interesting.

Youtube video

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

We wouldn't know whether they were 'justifiably' killed or not though, because no one kicks up a fuss about it when they are white.

This sounds like I'm one of those 'WHITE LIVES MATTER!!!!!!!!' people but I'm not. I hate those people.

I'm just saying that I don't think its a race thing like people claim it is. If it was, there would be far, far many more POC killed than white people.

Perhaps we do need to look more into who we do employ as a police officer. But again, its a tricky one, we will never know how difficult it is to be an officer. I once watched this and I thought it was pretty interesting.

Youtube video

...but that's the thing though of what has just sadly happened, Caitlin..we do know because police officers have been shot dead because they were white officers...families of white people wouldn't not shout out loud about it if they felt that a loved one had lost their life because of the colour of their skin...hang on, let me watch your vid...and morning.....

[Ammi]

.....hmmm, see though that's only really showing situations when it would be appropriate to draw weapons and sometimes use them..(although it's still whether an officer has shot to kill when he could have disabled..)...someone coming toward him in the way that is shown is most definitely 'threatening'...but would he shoot in the chest or in the legs because a shot to the chest would raise the chances more of a death shot... where the guy had a hidden knife..?...he was disarmed of that knife in a training situation that could be compared to the recent case, with the guy with the gun in his pocket..?..he was pinned down and unable to draw or use any weapon he may have had but was still shot to death...and Tamir Rice was shot and killed within seconds of the police officer's arriving on the scene with no attempt at any other alternative...the vid is only really showing 'no alternative' situations...

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

We wouldn't know whether they were 'justifiably' killed or not though, because no one kicks up a fuss about it when they are white.

This sounds like I'm one of those 'WHITE LIVES MATTER!!!!!!!!' people but I'm not. I hate those people.

I'm just saying that I don't think its a race thing like people claim it is. If it was, there would be far, far many more POC killed than white people.

Perhaps we do need to look more into who we do employ as a police officer. But again, its a tricky one, we will never know how difficult it is to be an officer. I once watched this and I thought it was pretty interesting.

Youtube video

If there was a substantial amount of white people being shot dead by The Police for no reason whatsoever then the News would report it.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's not really the volume of those killed by the police though, Caitlin...whether there have been more white people than black people..?...it's whether those white people were 'justifiably' killed and whether there was no alternative because of the threat they were being at the time ...it seems that sadly too often, black people are killed by the police when there have been alternatives to loss of life in those situations...so that would be the comparison to make...

And that is it. People don't seem to get it.
PS- I am skeptical about the numbers we are presented with in terms of deaths. There was a percentage that Trump shouted out which turned out to be false. So it really needs to be paid attention to, who is releasing these numbers.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

And that is it. People don't seem to get it.
PS- I am skeptical about the numbers we are presented with in terms of deaths. There was a percentage that Trump shouted out which turned out to be false. So it really needs to be paid attention to, who is releasing these numbers.

Sure but once the sound bite is out there
it gets its own river to flow in

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's not really the volume of those killed by the police though, Caitlin...whether there have been more white people than black people..?...it's whether those white people were 'justifiably' killed and whether there was no alternative because of the threat they were being at the time ...it seems that sadly too often, black people are killed by the police when there have been alternatives to loss of life in those situations...so that would be the comparison to make...

ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. No one should ever underestimate the brain and insight inside that beautiful exterior Ammi.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

What I find strange is that more white people have actually been killed by cops than any other race this year, yet no one seems to be protesting over that?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...gs-us-database

The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings, given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots.

If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood.

There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem. Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i stick with evidence and fact not mass hysteria and mob justice

If you cant deal with that , tough

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