[power2thepeople]

Originally Posted by Garfie

When Sam said that I did want to ask her which planet she'd been on for the last few weeks!

UNLESS BB haven't shown a real ruck between her and Bear. But I'm doubtful. She had some front to say that if you'll pardon the pun. Gone off her a lot for how she reacted. Pity, cos I'd like to think she would have had more fight in her but it looks to be playing up now or else she's so infuriated she's up that the real Sam is slipping. Either way, bit shady for me.

[caprimint]

They've come around to loving him just like the majority of the public are.

In all seriousness though - I wouldn't call a change of opinion 'weak' at all, if anything it's the opposite for admitting their feelings have changed and not holding a grudge.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jan S

me too... seems to be the only HM who hasn't lost the plot

it was like a slap in the face to renee: how often has she lambasted bear? loads of times. was never a fan of sam's - didn't hate her but didn't rate her at all - and what with her touchiness about the page 3 comments, and mostly walking AWAY from bear's ugliness when maybe others would have benefted from her piping up, once again she shows it's all about sam.filled with the most ridiculous egos.


indeed - frankie's become my favourite which is something i never expected.

i get ricky's reticence, and like his personality, but because he chooses not to speak out more (and i get it, i really do) there's something lacking there for me. i like that frankie speaks up, even if it's not as often as bear needs to hear... he never listens anyway.

really really bore with this series now, tbh. most the people are vile and if i hear any more of boor's dreadfully scripted-for-cam clichés, the awful sucky squelchy sounds of close-ups of kissing, and the women starting to fawn over bear then i'm done with it.

really, apart from frankie at the moment (and despite the fact i like ricky, lots, but he's not being winner material imo), this whole series is a washout for my tastes as a viewer. and now they're sticking in another geordie shaw bird? get me out of here.

Great post Jan

[user104658]

They've both had a soft spot for bear from the start? Not sure how people have missed that it's been quite obvious. They used to try harder to deny / hide it because they DO also find him irritating, but deep down they've never "hated" him at all.