[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Is unemployment really a problem in the States though?, when I was there it seemed like every second place we went to had "hiring Now" signs and the people we spoke to said there were so many jobs available

There are plenty of places in the US where unemployment is particularly rife; places like Detroit, for instance, with the collapse of the car industry and Washington State where fewer and fewer people are employed in the timber industry. Even in affluent states there are pockets of huge unemployment and deprivation.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Conor McGregor reacts to the Presidential results :

“I just could not give a bollocks, with all due respect, the whole thing is weird to me,” said McGregor. ” The public are just brainwashed into thinking something is going to happen with this one.

“I don’t think either of those two contenders, or whatever they are, have power in anything, anyway.”

I actually agree with the latter part of that but I also don't think it's that simple. *tinfoil hat time* I don't believe in democracy, particularly. I think there are things going on behind the scenes that dictate the "flow of events" and that most of the surface politics we actually see is distraction / window dressing. Not "illuminati" in the traditional sense of the word; that concept is too well defined which is against the point. It's unseen. It's little shunts, nudges, leaks, tweaks, that result in seeminly miniscule changes in political gravity that end up completely altering political tides.

The reason I only partly agree that it's not meaningless is that I believe current "unbelievable" (except actually, obvious, if you've been paying attention) political events, like Brexit and Trumpit, are a symptom of / an integral part of those changing tides. It *is* weird. There is WEIRD **** going on that shouldn't technically be politically possible and shocks people every time and yet, it's becoming consistent enough to be spotted a mile off. It doesn't feel usual. It feels like chess pieces sliding into place in obscure ways, and us casual players can't see the checkmate coming and are confused about those moves. I guarantee there are more "shocks" to come in global politics and eventually, we'll see how they all fit together.

One thing I can guarantee is that it won't be anything good for the "common man".

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A look into the future

Now that would be a reason to choose to live here rather than there.

[Josiah.]

Personally, I'd rather have RuPaul as President in 2020.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are plenty of places in the US where unemployment is particularly rife; places like Detroit, for instance, with the collapse of the car industry and Washington State where fewer and fewer people are employed in the timber industry. Even in affluent states there are pockets of huge unemployment and deprivation.

Clearly I'm no expert, I'm just going on my quick peek into the state of the states

While we were in New Orleans actually we got totaly grilled by an older RVing gentlman on how people our age could afford to come over there and RV, asking us what jobs we had and how we could afford stuff on our wages etc so rude

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I actually agree with the latter part of that but I also don't think it's that simple. *tinfoil hat time* I don't believe in democracy, particularly. I think there are things going on behind the scenes that dictate the "flow of events" and that most of the surface politics we actually see is distraction / window dressing. Not "illuminati" in the traditional sense of the word; that concept is too well defined which is against the point. It's unseen. It's little shunts, nudges, leaks, tweaks, that result in seeminly miniscule changes in political gravity that end up completely altering political tides.

The reason I only partly agree that it's not meaningless is that I believe current "unbelievable" (except actually, obvious, if you've been paying attention) political events, like Brexit and Trumpit, are a symptom of / an integral part of those changing tides. It *is* weird. There is WEIRD **** going on that shouldn't technically be politically possible and shocks people every time and yet, it's becoming consistent enough to be spotted a mile off. It doesn't feel usual. It feels like chess pieces sliding into place in obscure ways, and us casual players can't see the checkmate coming and are confused about those moves. I guarantee there are more "shocks" to come in global politics and eventually, we'll see how they all fit together.

One thing I can guarantee is that it won't be anything good for the "common man".

mmhmm once again i totally agree with you

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Clearly I'm no expert, I'm just going on my quick peek into the state of the states

While we were in New Orleans actually we got totaly grilled by an older RVing gentlman on how people our age could afford to come over there and RV, asking us what jobs we had and how we could afford stuff on our wages etc so rude

Wow, what a dickhead! LOL... I hope you taught him some new Irish words.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wow, what a dickhead! LOL... I hope you taught him some new Irish words.

I think alot of people over there think Ireland is a third world country or something

[arista]

Livia BLAME the CLINTON's

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I actually agree with the latter part of that but I also don't think it's that simple. *tinfoil hat time* I don't believe in democracy, particularly. I think there are things going on behind the scenes that dictate the "flow of events" and that most of the surface politics we actually see is distraction / window dressing. Not "illuminati" in the traditional sense of the word; that concept is too well defined which is against the point. It's unseen. It's little shunts, nudges, leaks, tweaks, that result in seeminly miniscule changes in political gravity that end up completely altering political tides.

The reason I only partly agree that it's not meaningless is that I believe current "unbelievable" (except actually, obvious, if you've been paying attention) political events, like Brexit and Trumpit, are a symptom of / an integral part of those changing tides. It *is* weird. There is WEIRD **** going on that shouldn't technically be politically possible and shocks people every time and yet, it's becoming consistent enough to be spotted a mile off. It doesn't feel usual. It feels like chess pieces sliding into place in obscure ways, and us casual players can't see the checkmate coming and are confused about those moves. I guarantee there are more "shocks" to come in global politics and eventually, we'll see how they all fit together.

One thing I can guarantee is that it won't be anything good for the "common man".

Keep wearing that tin foil hat TS... you make sense to me

[arista]

Spoiler:

Utter Bliss LT, Kirk , TS

[the truth]

Trump will be a good president this is a good result for democracy
He will shake the corrupt self serving paid off stinking senators to their core.
He will fight their endless march to globalisation
He will maintain social security, he will protect ex soldiers
He will attempt to have a dialogue with the ruskies
He will whack big tariffs on those exporting jobs and on cheap illegal chinese crap
He will rebuild the industries and the infrastructure
He will loosen some of the insane red tape on small to medium businesses and lower their taxes and rates and allow them to compete with the corporations
He will protect religious rights
He will maintain all the same rights for LGBT
as for sexism and racism? people throw those words around like confetti and forget the meaning.. the man has employed over 10,000 women/workers from outside america? He has women in top positions right across the 500+ big companies he has owned or part owned including his daughter as the head of his property empire
People say oh hes been bankrupt? when youre involved in over 500 big companies, the fact 11 of them went bust is a good average
He will attempt to wipe out ISIS whilst looking to reduce the middle east wars
He will not cowtow to special interests, including hard line radical muslims or hard line radical zionists...he will be his own man and will not be paid off, the man has balls
abortion he wants to hand it to the individual states. outside of health risks and rape, he favours putting a stricter time limit on abortion and investing billions into pro life choices for mothers and fathers to be. giving them options such as having the child and fostering it out,adoption. millions regret abortions, so I agree to pump in billions to give parents who may be struggling or poor or on drugs or drink or confused or scared or alone...to give them better support in that situation to give them all available choices and information and time and help them come to a well thought out reasoned decision is a very good way forward. the hardline feminist liberal approach , all women can have abortions whenever they like its their body, is at heart dumb self defatist and doesnt help the mother and certainly doesnt help the unborn child

He will protect gun rights as much as I deplore guns, in a nation of 300 million guns I guess youd have to buy one to protect yourself...I do however despair if he wont crack down on qualifying to buy guns and also automatic weapons need to be banned. I think hes plain wrong on that
obamacare. well who knows what the heck he will do with this? obamacare is a must. its insured over 40 miollion poorerst americans, but the premiums and mega high and theyre crippling small businesses so lets hope he can improve this
he will reduce the insane 20 trillion debt
He has an amazing family and incredible kids which is the real reason why he became president...if we all had families like that around us we too could run for president
in the end hes not the hard right nutjob some fear, hes not going to launch nukes, he wont enslave us to TTIP Nafta or the EU. he will bring jobs back to america

[Crimson Dynamo]

Great to once again have a US President who loves the UK

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh dear, for me just a bit more evidence the World is really going mad, the harder,more heartless and extreme divisive tones seemingly attracting the support.

Having said that, Trumps victory speech was better than I expected but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am happy at this result.
For me this is a backward step by the USA and in fact a dangerous one too.

Just really glad I do not live there today.
Obviously let's see where he goes and what he really does now or is he also going to follow a different path now in power from what he advocated in his awful and really nasty campaign.
If the path he goes down is far away from most of what he said in his campaign then possibly things will not be so bad after all.

I don't know what you have been watching but Clinton's campaign was pretty nasty, just like her.

I don't know why you would think having Hilary as president would be a good thing for any country if you respect standards, honesty and doing the best for the country rather than what is best for an individual's political career. She has demonstrated dishonesty and a over-riding desire for power. She doesn't give 2 hoots for the average Amercian citizen.

[Josiah.]

I realized that the Electoral College vote is next month, which means that electors will vote for the President. This means that if enough of the swings states change their votes, Hillary will break the glass ceiling and win the presidency.

[ArgyESC]

Today is a dark day for humanity.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josiah.

I realized that the Electoral College vote is next month, which means that electors will vote for the President. This means that if enough of the swings states change their votes, Hillary will break the glass ceiling and win the presidency.

Stop dreaming
Keep you Feet On The ground fella


She has said
NO More

ready to piss off

Out Of IT



Keep It Real

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Great to once again have a US President who loves the UK

Positive LT


I am glad you are on this Forum
so many Socialists
it makes me SICK

[Mokka]

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mokka

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter

As a woman, I'm horrified that any other woman would vote for him tbqh

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As a woman, I'm horrified that any other woman would vote for him tbqh

Rebublican women did... in droves

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Rebublican women did... in droves

I also don't get this absolute loyalty the average joe has to a political party

[arista]

LT Simpsons Great writers Predicted THIS
video
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/09/the-si...erica-6245205/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As a woman, I'm horrified that any other woman would vote for him tbqh

Ann Coulter was on GMBHD itv
for 2 days now


I could give her one


We have Democracy now



Feel The Force

[Crimson Dynamo]

@ MODS

asking with a sign where a member is as a light hearted joke as that person hates Trump is not baiting



for f ucks sake get a grip

Its light hearted taking the piss, am I to report every time some takes the piss out of me??

Go ahead and ban me if you like but this is just ridiculous and spiteful

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mokka

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter

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