[the truth]

its going to be a pretty mental ride....sadly being such A self funding non paid off maverick theres obvously a chance of assassination

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think there are comparisons to be made; as you said yourself, the result is down to a frustrated and ignored population rallying behind something "different" that they don't fully understand.

However, that's not to say that it will be a "Nazi Germany situation" - because as I said before, I don't think Trump truly believes half of the rhetoric he used to gain votes. There's not real "passion" behind his various "-isms" and he's unlikely to actually act on any of them. He will focus primarily on the economy / isolationist ("Made By American Hands With American Stuff!") business idealism that he has, and make a bit of a mess there, and then he'll be voted out in 4 years.

The people in Germany were starving... no one in the US is starving. I could carry on with a whole host of reasons why this result isn't anything like Nazi Germany but I can't be arsed in going through it all every time there's a result someone doesn't like and we're back to the Nazi Germany comments. I once mentioned Nazi Germany completely in context of what we were discussing and you called Godwin on me. Not now though... now it's okay?

We'll see what he does. People have been making predictions for ages now and they've all been wrong so far.

[Tom4784]

I think the Nazi Germany comparison is apt, I've not seen any good arguments against it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think the Nazi Germany comparison is apt, I've not seen any good arguments against it.

I recommend you look into what the Nazis did and how it started. And how wildly it differs from this.

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I hope USA's next election learns a lot from this one.

I hope Dems do. They've gotten a bit too cozy with Hollywood and the elites and forgotten about the middle class and the working class. Bernie Sanders actually warned about this and the Dems didn't listen

Healthcare costs are rising rapidly even with Obamacare, the estate/death tax would doom family farms, EPA regulations, while necessary, would've closed alot of coal mines and miners would have nothing left. If Hillary won, Dems would've left these families in the dust and the gap between poor and rich would've continued, unfortunately the worst possible person in the world, someone who will allow hate to reign.

At least the markets are plunging, and even though there are right now comparisons to Germany back in the 30s and 40s, There's still a good amount of opposition to Trump, even by GOP, in congress. Trump will have a rough road ahead and if he thinks he could still rule with an iron fist. He's got another thing coming.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

To think the majority of Americans actually voted for Hillary, makes the whole thing even worse. Given Trumps criticism of the system and his accusations of it being rigged, it would have been interesting if it was the other way around. But the system being the way it is has benefited him greatly here so of course there mustn't be anything wrong with it after all

I think we need to 'put our own house in order' first Jamie, before we even begin to wonder at the American Electoral System:

UKIP increased its share of the vote in the last General Election by 10 percentage points to a total of 3.9 million and wound up with just one constituency under the UK's first-past-the-post voting system.

Under the D'Hondt system of converting votes to seats, UKIP would have gained 83 seats.

Labour would have won far less seats and the Tories 75 less seats, and the SNP's 50 seat increase would have been just 25.

The unfairness of our current voting system is best illustrated by the fact that UKIP required more than 100 times as many votes for its lone elected MP than the Conservatives did for each of theirs.

Politics is a funny old game Jamie innit?

[reece(:]

Pence is more concerning than Trump tbh, he has political background and dangerous views.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

I agree, and it's not a wise direction to be going in. All it inspires is divide and vitriol to one another

[arista]

"All leaders are corrupt"


Sure Dezzy
but Clinton Bitch was Stinking Rotten
Fact

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

I recommend you look into what the Nazis did and how it started. And how wildly it differs from this.

I recommend you do the same.

Both the Nazis and Trump came to prominence due to support from a disillusioned public that wanted something 'different.' Both the Nazis and Trump ran on a platform of scapegoating minorities and blaming them for their countries' troubles as a way of garnering support. Both Hitler and Trump's advisors are and were heinous. Both relied on the ignorance of the public to seize power.

Hell, you could possibly make connections of reports of violence from Trump supporters to that of the bursts of violence throughout the Nazi's rise.

There's a lot of significant similarities and focusing on the small differentiating details as a way to discredit it isn't really going to work.

[James]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.



Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

The Nazis didn't gain absolute power in Germany through a democratic process.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the ageing President, having lost a previous presidential election, and the Nazis dismantled democracy after that.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by James

The Nazis didn't gain absolute power in Germany through a democratic process.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the ageing President, having lost a previous presidential election, and the Nazis dismantled democracy after that.

Yet they had the electoral support to be put into a position where they could seize power through their own means.

[BBfanUSA]

This isn't like Nazi Germany because look at the BLM movement.

That isn't going away and it will continue to grow. Media will continue to cover it.

There's a strong group ready to fight if his dome of influence continues

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I think we need to 'put our own house in order' first Jamie, before we even begin to wonder at the American Electoral System:

UKIP increased its share of the vote in the last General Election by 10 percentage points to a total of 3.9 million and wound up with just one constituency under the UK's first-past-the-post voting system.

Under the D'Hondt system of converting votes to seats, UKIP would have gained 83 seats.

Labour would have won far less seats and the Tories 75 less seats, and the SNP's 50 seat increase would have been just 25.

The unfairness of our current voting system is best illustrated by the fact that UKIP required more than 100 times as many votes for its lone elected MP than the Conservatives did for each of theirs.

Politics is a funny old game Jamie innit?

I totally agree with this, I will help canvass endlessly all I can to get this first past the post system done away with.

Because for me not only will that bring far more representative result of elections as to how people voted but also it will,I believe, really help curb the extremes of all parties as to policy too, in order to get elected MPs in the first place.

No matter what party then leads in such a PR election or what combination of parties in government follows, such a govt; will at least command the true majority of votes cast in elections and therefore have a more true and right mandate.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yet you are okay with the Clinton Allegations?

You can't act like the accusations against Hillary are the gospel truth and then downplay the allegations against Trump.

Am I, when did I say that?

So good of you to make up comments for me.

[Scarlett.]

People are saying that there are SIMILARITIES to Nazi Germany.

They're not saying it's the exact same as Nazi Germany.
They're not saying Trump is literally Hitler.

Ignoring any hints toward the rise of facism again would be a disservice to those who died in WWII.

[jet]

So for the biggest and most important job in the free world no experience or qualifications are necessary - and that is acceptable to many? What in the **** is that all about? What a joke....

[arista]

Originally Posted by jet

So for the biggest and most important job in the free world no experience or qualifications are necessary - and that is acceptable to many? What in the **** is that all about? What a joke....

Your missing the Point
8 years wasted
Clintons are Corrupt as HELL

You do as you are told
or you are FIRED now

[Amy Jade]

Trump is just as corrupt as Clinton

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Chewy

People are saying that there are SIMILARITIES to Nazi Germany.

They're not saying it's the exact same as Nazi Germany.
They're not saying Trump is literally Hitler.

Ignoring any hints toward the rise of facism again would be a disservice to those who died in WWII.

People on here were last week calling Hillary Hitlary ...and posting oh so funny youtube videos hammering home the joke ... but don't you dare make the reference the other way

[jet]

Originally Posted by arista

Your missing the Point
8 years wasted
Clintons are Corrupt as HELL

You do as you are told
or you are FIRED now

Would you let a egotistical rich man who had never seen the inside of an operating room operate on you instead of an experienced surgeon just because he believes that he could do a better job?
All we've had is hot air and sound bites from Trump - he's untried and inexperienced. Yet he's handed the biggest job (and a job that could be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands) as if that doesn't matter. If that's not nuts, I don't know what is.

[arista]

Originally Posted by James

The Nazis didn't gain absolute power in Germany through a democratic process.

Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the ageing President, having lost a previous presidential election, and the Nazis dismantled democracy after that.

Yes James
its Shocking so many on TIBB
never Studied WW2 in Full.

Bad Education
I do not like it

[Mokka]

Hillary is speaking rt now

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Hillary is speaking rt now

Yes



It is good to Cry

[arista]

"inside of an operating room "

No Jet , not comparable

Bernie was Killed Off by her
she is Evil