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Originally Posted by joeysteele

That is extremely rude, really.

Anyway, how odd it is despite systems in elections that are not the best system there could be, such as ours here in the UK, that inflicts govts on us who get a very small level of support from the whole electorate.

However what often does get held up is who gets more votes, in the EU referendum it doesn't matter that 2 Nations of the UK voted heavily against leaving.
All that matters in that case is overall there was a very small 3.8% majority to leave as to votes.
Of course that is right, there was, however as Ammi has stated, that leaves just about almost a 50/50 split and passions and will of course still run high.

However we keep getting the vote was all that matters and we should, shut up and get on with it.

However I can understand the dismay in the USA at this election, to me there seems a lot wrong wit their system too as with ours.
The States and the numbers that go to the electoral college have in 2 elections already since 2000 not totally reflected the actual votes cast.

Albeit with the tiniest majority, Clinton got more votes in this election that Trump, however was soundly beaten in the electoral college system.
Twice that has happened in just 4 elections, in 2000 and now 2016.

So as Ammi is indicating there is another almost 50/50 split.
Also understanding the anger, it amazes me that people who advocate they support democracy, then condemn the democratic right of protest against something if they do not support being against a decision.

Many Nations of the World get condemned as to their leaders for people not being able to demonstrate against this or that.
Reforms and voting right in the UK were fought for and won by demonstrations and protests.
It is part of a true democratic right to do so.

So why condemn those in the States now exercising that democratic right to do so now after this extremely divisive and nasty tones election.
Also in light of something like an 82 majority for Trump in the electoral college but Clinton having actually, just, got more votes than him across the whole of the USA.

That system along with our outdated and now totally unrepresentative first past the post electoral system here, I think needs changing and looking at.
It should never be anywhere that actual votes can be 50/50 split in any elections but one part/individual can then get such a distorted level of power from that.

In such distortions of votes, anger and frustration is bound to surface as Ammi is saying.
It should not matter whether we support or do not suupport particular candidates or issues, what should be the case in my view, is that the democratic right to protest, in any real democracy that is, is upheld completely and not condemned just when it doesn't fit our own stance or opinion..

The system is the system - quibbling about exact numbers is irrelevant and pointless. 50% of the electorate do not trust Clinton! Simple as.