[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I see, so both electoral systems need an overhaul because in both cases the vote did not go your way. Sorry, but that sounds like a very sore loser to me.

How offensive.

I said in my post whichever the way elections go,I do not like systems anywhere that do not properly represent votes cast by people taking the time to vote..

We have had in the UK elections in the last 3 elections where 2 gave power absolute power to one party, one Labour and one Conservative.
I object equally to both so don't just brand people who believe if fairness in elections as sore losers.

I am Labour supporter in the UK and I know full well that a PR system here would remove absolute power from both major parties in elections and government.
I however believe that to be right and fair that elections represent votes cast more accurately and fairly as to representation.

In the USA I wanted Clinton over Trump and she got the most votes across the whole USA.
If however you are happy with a system that can dismiss that closeness of votes and allow someone who got fewer votes to take full power with a larger mandate due to the electoral college system, then sorry that kind of democracy is not for me.
In fact to me it is dubious as to whether that is in fact real democracy.

The USA has elections to the Senate and House of Representatives from all States,why on earth cannot it just have a President elected by all the people via the actual votes cast across the whole USA as a total.
I say that as to whoever would have or could have won.

It puzzles me still why those who believe in democracy moan at people who are protesting against something when it is their full legitimate right to do so.
In a real democracy that is.