[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

All the ban will achieve is make America a bigger target. The ban does nothing to stop terrorism, it's just for the sake of people like you who are wilfully ignorant.

It's not about appeasement, it's about common sense. Not all muslims are terrorists and it does nothing good to treat innocent people as suspects based on nothing but your own paranoid fears. What Trump is doing is unconstitutional and goes against the core tenets that the US was built upon. It's rather sad that you are supporting the infringement of human rights because you are crippled by fear especially when this ban will do nothing to actually help.

People who gladly throw their own rights away and the rights of others to feel a false sense of security make me sick.

Your third paragraph is just the typical useless 'LEFT IS THE DEVIL' rubbish that you present as fact although it isn't in the slightest. You've ignored actual facts presented by peopel in thsi thread because you can't argue against them, like usual, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Your point about downplaying terrorism committed by non-muslim parties is silly too, there hasn't been a Muslim terrorist attack carried out by a foreign party in any of the banned countries since 1975 like Greg said so what's the point of this ban? It's a meaningless measure meant to appease the ignorant and not actually achieve anything in the process.

When it comes to terrorism, the biggest threat to the average American isn't every Muslim from abroad but white mass shooters that were born and raised in America. It's kind of odd how you are so willing to breeze past that to screech about arabic people and muslims.

Can't be bothered to continue with a mod who doesn't abide by his own forum's rules by not insulting members. Not exactly setting a good example to forum members is it.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Can't be bothered to continue with a mod who doesn't abide by his own forum's rules by not insulting members. Not exactly setting a good example to forum members is it.

Tata

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Tata

Did I say I was leaving the thread, just not conversing with those that don't follow their own rules. Shame.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Can't be bothered to continue with a mod who doesn't abide by his own forum's rules by not insulting members. Not exactly setting a good example to forum members is it.

Here comes the traditional 'I can't argue with what you're saying so I'm gonna make out that I'm being bullied by a mod when I'm not because I can't admit defeat' card.

It's funny because I've not insulted you, in fact you're the one that's gotten personal by bringing up the fact that I'm a mod as an attempt to try and shut down my opinion.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Here comes the traditional 'I can't argue with what you're saying so I'm gonna make out that I'm being bullied by a mod when I'm not because I can't admit defeat' card.

It's funny because I've not insulted you, in fact you're the one that's gotten personal by bringing up the fact that I'm a mod as an attempt to try and shut down my opinion.

So directly calling me 'wilfully ignorant' isn't insulting. I have been infracted for less. So it is okay for us to call each other ignorant, or is that only for mods. I would have thought is less acceptable for mods as they have an example to set.

Challenge my posts all you like, I am no angel, but don't directly insult me as it is against the rules and you know it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

So directly calling me 'wilfully ignorant' isn't insulting. I have been infracted for less. So it is okay for us to call each other ignorant, or is that only for mods. I would have thought is less acceptable for mods as they have an example to set.

Challenge my posts all you like, I am no angel, but don't directly insult me as it is against the rules and you know it.

Well that's a lie. You have six infractions and none of them are for calling anyone ignorant.

I only infract insults if they are actually insults, saying that someone is ignorant is not something I'd consider an insult especially in this context as you have ignored or downplayed facts presented by others that don't suit your agenda. That is pretty ignorant.

If I used an actual abusive term against you then you'd be right but ignorance, like bigot is a descriptor of someone's opinion. Not an insult.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well that's a lie. You have six infractions and none of them are for calling anyone ignorant.

I only infract insults if they are actually insults, saying that someone is ignorant is not something I'd consider an insult especially in this context as you have ignored or downplayed facts presented by others that don't suit your agenda. That is pretty ignorant.

If I used an actual abusive term against you then you'd be right but ignorance, like bigot is a descriptor of someone's opinion. Not an insult.

No they were for being less offensive than that. How have I lied? Proof please.

Ok so we can all take it that it is ok to call each their ignorant.

Now we know.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No they were for being less offensive than that. How have I lied? Proof please.

Ok so we can all take it that it is ok to call each their ignorant.

Now we know.

With your permission I could screenshot your infractions for you if you like? Would that be proof enough?

Yes, I have no problem with you or anyone calling anyone ignorant, it's not an insult.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

With your permission I could screenshot your infractions for you if you like? Would that be proof enough?

Yes, I have no problem with you or anyone calling anyone ignorant, it's not an insult.

What are you on about - what did I lie about - explain. I never said I got banned for calling someone ignorant, I said I got banned for less. Where is the lie?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

So directly calling me 'wilfully ignorant' isn't insulting. I have been infracted for less. So it is okay for us to call each other ignorant, or is that only for mods. I would have thought is less acceptable for mods as they have an example to set.

Challenge my posts all you like, I am no angel, but don't directly insult me as it is against the rules and you know it.

To be fair, is it really that unfounded?

lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ignorant

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

To be fair, is it really that unfounded?

lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ignorant

In these types of topics people on both sides are critical of each other but you point out where I have said anything worse than anyone else. I choose my words carefully, due to previous experience, and I am not the one that got too personal.