[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

If the left keeps carrying on like this, with riots and attacking innocent people, then Trump will be in for two term's.

The left is going about it the wrong way. USA is on the verge of civil war if they don't stop.

They need to fight back with ideas, not violence.

This is a good example of only paying attention to things that suit your agenda regardless of how truthful they are. Calling the left violent because of a bunch of people that had no interest in politics and only wanted an opportunity to fight is quite silly.

It's also funny how you like to tar the entire left as violent thugs but would likely be very upset if I were to suggest that everyone who identifies as Right Wing are Nazis and White Supremacists just because the Alt Right exists. Not everyone of a Right Wing persuasion is a bigot and not everyone of a left wing persuasion is violent.

Hell I find that accusation of the left being violent to be ridiculous in itself. If we were to tally Right Wing violence in comparison to Left Wing then I'd assume that there's more cases of extremism amongst the Right than the left. Not that any of these incidents are indicative of either side.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is a good example of only paying attention to things that suit your agenda regardless of how truthful they are. Calling the left violent because of a bunch of people that had no interest in politics and only wanted an opportunity to fight is quite silly.

It's also funny how you like to tar the entire left as violent thugs but would likely be very upset if I were to suggest that everyone who identifies as Right Wing are Nazis and White Supremacists just because the Alt Right exists. Not everyone of a Right Wing persuasion is a bigot and not everyone of a left wing persuasion is violent.

Hell I find that accusation of the left being violent to be ridiculous in itself. If we were to tally Right Wing violence in comparison to Left Wing then I'd assume that there's more cases of extremism amongst the Right than the left. Not that any of these incidents are indicative of either side.

You can find it as ridiculous as you want, that's your choice, but there's lot's of evidence of violent attacks on people just because they support Trump in the past few months. Not to mention the trashing of the city's and trashing peoples business's, just because the election didn't go their way. It's all there to see. I'm not telling lies.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

You can find it as ridiculous as you want, that's your choice, but there's lot's of evidence of violent attacks on people just because they support Trump in the past few months. Not to mention the trashing of the city's and trashing peoples business's, just because the election didn't go their way. It's all there to see. I'm not telling lies.

I'd say that the vast amount of peaceful protests speak louder than a bunch of yobs co-opting ruining a protest for their own benefit. You are focusing on an extreme minority of people who aren't politically inclined to trash an entire way of thinking. Just imagine your fumes if I did the same about the right wing.

It's completely hypocritical of you.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'd say that the vast amount of peaceful protests speak louder than a bunch of yobs co-opting ruining a protest for their own benefit. You are focusing on an extreme minority of people who aren't politically inclined to trash an entire way of thinking. Just imagine your fumes if I did the same about the right wing.

It's completely hypocritical of you.

If the right was committing acts of violence and criminal damage, I'd be with you condemning them, but at the moment, they're not, but the left are.

And of course it's a bunch of yobs, a big bunch mind. But those yobs are lefties, and I don't see any prominent leftie speakers condemning them.

Who isn't hypocritical from time to time?, I think we all are.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

If the right was committing acts of violence and criminal damage, I'd be with you condemning them, but at the moment, they're not, but the left are.

And of course it's a bunch of yobs, a big bunch mind. But those yobs are lefties, and I don't see any prominent leftie speakers condemning them.

Who isn't hypocritical from time to time, I think we all are.

There's enough extremist right wing acts of violence to choose from if I wanted to paint an entire way of thinking as violent. It's not liberal pro lifers that attack Abortion Clinics, it wasn't a 'leftie' that shot up Charleston Church or attacked the Overland Jewish Community Centre and they aren't responsible for other incidents of Right Wing Terrorism over the past few years.

To balance things out, I looked up recent incidents of US based Left Wing Terrorism but there's not much to write about beyond the Cold War. In terms of domestic terrorism, it's Right Wing terrorism that's been leading the charge in recent times.

So, if we play your game of tarring entire ideologies with an extremist brush then the Right still come off worse. It's just silly to paint either side as violent based on the actions of a minority, especially considering you are picking and choosing your 'facts' to suit your own version of what happened.