[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Idk, I know these are casual/production opinions but Andrea & Phillip got on Caramoan as favorites and Natalie almost got on Cambodia I think. They had to be some level of quality characters for that to happen (it means they were showcased enough / had at least some layers to their character or were just flat out entertaining enough). What you said is just your perception (& on one part of their characters). You could do that with a lot of characters on these shows, especially SoPa for example, a season you gave a decent amount of credit. I don't think R.I. was great but it had its moments and wasn't bad for a season with the redemption island twist. I wouldn't expect you, or anyone who doesn't like Rob & Phillip in particular, to like the season because they did get major edits on the show and were big reasons why the season wasn't so bad.

eh, I don't take much credence into people being quality characters because they get invited back for future seasons since the difference between how production casts male returnees and female returnees is staggeringly different. Like, Amber was cast as an All-Star. Danielle DiLorenzo was cast as a villain. Sierra and Hali were cast as Game Changers. Even Parvati's inclusion in Micronesia was questionable at the time to some. Just looking at the Cambodia ballot, the male side was littered with every hyper-strategist imaginable, all playing the same role, and the female side was sprinkled with bikini fluff like Mikayla Wingle and Monica Padilla.

And idk, I just finished the season and Natalie and Ashley's voices weren't even recognizable to me until the final six maybe, when they finally started getting slightly more individualized content. I'm curious as to what you or other people found to be noteworthy about them and some of the reasons why RI was an entertaining season with a lot of moments because I can't think of anything. It felt like I was watching the same episode over and over again because there wasn't much forward plot development.

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Didn't Sue Hawk basically start this?

Motives were entirely different. Sue's speech came from a place of hurt because of all the baggage that she carried into the show and into her friendship with Kelly. David was just an ass who wanted to pat himself on the back all "the person I am voting for is objectively The Right Choice, and if you have any dignity then I expect you to vote the same way as me."