[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're proving me right, I reckon as long as someone takes a stand against immigration you'd probably support them regardless of their other policies and that's the problem with the voters. Trump is pretty much cancer to anyone who isn't a millionaire but he's got a lot of support from the working and middle classes despite the fact that it was obvious he'd do nothing but **** on them from a great height, they didn't pay attention because they were all like 'Yay! He's getting rid of Mexicans and Muslims!'

It's a similar story with Brexit, immigration became the number 1 issue that decided the vote although immigration won't even be affected either way.

The alt right has come about in opposition of a world that's growing more tolerant, to blame the left for them is moronic, nobody made the alt right racist or bigoted, that's on them so stop making excuses and blaming other people for a bigot's opinion.

Bigot = a person who is intolerant to people with different opinions, so therefore that definition applies as much to you as to those you accuse, so you are really not in a position to keep throwing the word around willy nilly.

As for your predictions on future immigration I prefer to listen to the experts not those trying hard to convince themselves as well as others. Time will tell.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Bigot = a person who is intolerant to people with different opinions, so therefore that definition applies as much to you as to those you accuse, so you are really not in a position to keep throwing the word around willy nilly.

As for your predictions on future immigration I prefer to listen to the experts not those trying hard to convince themselves as well as others. Time will tell.

Ah, that tired old argument. It was a stupid argument then and it still is now. To accuse me of bigotry is truly desperate and laughable.

You'll only listen to experts when they'll tell you what you want to hear which is never. The leavers certainly didn't listen to the experts when it came to Brexit....in fact I remember the Brexit camp saying that they were 'tired' of experts (more like tired of not being told what they want to hear).

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ah, that tired old argument. It was a stupid argument then and it still is now. To accuse me of bigotry is truly desperate and laughable.

You'll only listen to experts when they'll tell you what you want to hear which is never. The leavers certainly didn't listen to the experts when it came to Brexit....in fact I remember the Brexit camp saying that they were 'tired' of experts (more like tired of not being told what they want to hear).

That's the definition and you are clearly intolerant of people with different opinions. You can't argue with the dictionary.

What experts on Brexit - there weren't any.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That's the definition and you are clearly intolerant of people with different opinions. You can't argue with the dictionary.

What experts on Brexit - there weren't any.

How am I intolerant of other people's opinions? My entire mantra in serious debates is basically that anyone can have an opinion and anyone can disagree with that opinion. I've literally said that a thousand times. My opinion is that both the Brexit and the recent US election were decided by ignorance, that's not being intolerant of other opinions, that's simply having my own. The only intolerant person here is you given how hard you're trying to shut my opinion down. Brillo being proven to be a hypocrite once again *takes a shot.*

There were plenty of experts of all walks of life who were critical of Brexit, once again you're proving me correct because you obviously didn't pay attention to what the experts were saying in regards to Brexit when it isn't something you want to hear.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How am I intolerant of other people's opinions? My entire mantra in serious debates is basically that anyone can have an opinion and anyone can disagree with that opinion. I've literally said that a thousand times. My opinion is that both the Brexit and the recent US election were decided by ignorance, that's not being intolerant of other opinions, that's simply having my own. The only intolerant person here is you given how hard you're trying to shut my opinion down. Brillo being proven to be a hypocrite once again *takes a shot.*

There were plenty of experts of all walks of life who were critical of Brexit, once again you're proving me correct because you obviously didn't pay attention to what the experts were saying in regards to Brexit when it isn't something you want to hear.

We are all entitled to our opinions but you often get quite aggressive in your comebacks which demonstrates intolerance. You may well be able to say the same about me but I am not the one continually calling others bigots.

There were 'experts' on both sides in the Brexit debate so at the end of the day it comes down to opinion and who you agree with. There is no defined right or wrong in this.

Personally I am still firmly of the opinion that long term Brexit and independence from Europe and all its controlling rules and regulations will be good for Britain.

Despite your protestations you have proved nothing.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We are all entitled to our opinions but you often get quite aggressive in your comebacks which demonstrates intolerance. You may well be able to say the same about me but I am not the one continually calling others bigots.

There were 'experts' on both sides in the Brexit debate so at the end of the day it comes down to opinion and who you agree with. There is no defined right or wrong in this.

Personally I am still firmly of the opinion that long term Brexit and independence from Europe and all its controlling rules and regulations will be good for Britain.

Despite your protestations you have proved nothing.

It's Serious Debates, love, I'm debating. Intolerance is intolerance, I've not been intolerant of anyone else's opinions, you are allowed to have them and I'm allowed to disagree. You call me intolerant yet you try to shut my opinion down regularly because it doesn't suit you. Once again you are showing that you are strangely sensitive to people using the word 'bigot' then WHY they are using it.

Oh? Last post you said this 'What experts on Brexit - there weren't any.' and now you are saying there were experts on both sides? What's the truth? Do you even know?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's Serious Debates, love, I'm debating. Intolerance is intolerance, I've not been intolerant of anyone else's opinions, you are allowed to have them and I'm allowed to disagree. You call me intolerant yet you try to shut my opinion down regularly because it doesn't suit you. Once again you are showing that you are strangely sensitive to people using the word 'bigot' then WHY they are using it.

Oh? Last post you said this 'What experts on Brexit - there weren't any.' and now you are saying there were experts on both sides? What's the truth? Do you even know?

Supposed 'experts' - hence the inverted commas. Thought that was clear love. I know that I know thanks.

There you go with your aggressive sexist put-downs. I'm not sensitive to them but will point out double standards when I see them especially when directed at me.