[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's your experience are you seriously suggesting Tozzie can't identify a white Brit

No and that's not my point. I'm not saying the people in her area are secretly white. I'm saying that a LOT of previously nice, friendly market towns have gone to sh** in the last couple of decades and it has very little to do with "dirty immigrants". It's happening in towns where there is very little immigration, too. Immigrants are somewhat of a scapegoat and the town wouldn't be any better if there had been less... It's just that the "unfriendly faces" would be white British ones.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No and that's not my point. I'm not saying the people in her area are secretly white. I'm saying that a LOT of previously nice, friendly market towns have gone to sh** in the last couple of decades and it has very little to do with "dirty immigrants". It's happening in towns where there is very little immigration, too. Immigrants are somewhat of a scapegoat and the town wouldn't be any better if there had been less... It's just that the "unfriendly faces" would be white British ones.

I completely get your point, and I agree to a point however I don't know why you find it completely acceptable that there can be British only **** holes but you don't accept that there are some towns where immigrants have contributed to the **** hole

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I completely get your point, and I agree to a point however I don't know why you find it completely acceptable that there can be British only **** holes but you don't accept that there are some towns where immigrants have contributed to the **** hole

I don't see the relevance of the skin colour of the people living in ****holes?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't see the relevance of the skin colour of the people living in ****holes?

you saw the relevance of pointing out that your wife's ****hole town was 99 per cent white British

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

you saw the relevance of pointing out that your wife's ****hole town was 99 per cent white British

To prove you don't have to be Asian to be a sh*t head?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

To prove you don't have to be Asian to be a sh*t head?

It doesn't prove anything, TS is just speaking from his experience, he has posted no facts to back it up, he hasn't been asked to produce a 2011 census to back up his claims of a town practically full of white Brits which coincidentally happens to be a ****hole, how convenient yet it is accepted as fact, while Tozzie has to back up all her post with facts and figures, only on TiBB I'm an immigrant but I can see that not all immigrants contribute in a positive way to the community same as all natives don't, to claim otherwise is absurd

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It doesn't prove anything, TS is just speaking from his experience, he has posted no facts to back it up, he hasn't been asked to produce a 2011 census to back up his claims of a town practically full of white Brits which coincidentally happens to be a ****hole, how convenient yet it is accepted as fact, while Tozzie has to back up all her post with facts and figures, only on TiBB I'm an immigrant but I can see that not all immigrants contribute in a positive way to the community same as all natives don't, to claim otherwise is absurd

Not the case at all.

Tozzie made a point based on anecdotal evidence. TS then made the opposite point based on anecdotal evidence. Thus showing anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It doesn't prove anything, TS is just speaking from his experience, he has posted no facts to back it up, he hasn't been asked to produce a 2011 census to back up his claims of a town practically full of white Brits which coincidentally happens to be a ****hole, how convenient yet it is accepted as fact, while Tozzie has to back up all her post with facts and figures, only on TiBB I'm an immigrant but I can see that not all immigrants contribute in a positive way to the community same as all natives don't, to claim otherwise is absurd

Nobody's claiming otherwise.

Of course there's some who don't contribute positively. It's the same in all walks of life throughout the human race.

But to claim the majority are causing trouble and that immigrants as a whole are a problem requires statistical proof. Especially when he's claiming green card marriages are some kind of epidemic. That requires proof too.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I completely get your point, and I agree to a point however I don't know why you find it completely acceptable that there can be British only **** holes but you don't accept that there are some towns where immigrants have contributed to the **** hole

But there's a difference between "There are sh*tholes everywhere regardless of race colour and creed" and "This one is a sh*thole BECAUSE of immigration".