[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think it's just getting to me lately... I used to have a policy of a 24h ban from the shop if old men started airing their sectarian or homophobic **** openly and a permanent ban if they kept doing it but these days we just have to turn a blind eye as we'd have lost half of our regulars. And that obviously has nothing at all to do with terrorism or immigration fears. It's age-old prejudices that are not related to nationality, that as a society we managed to establish as not really being acceptable anymore, but in the last year there's a very clear attitude of "hehe yasss I can say whatever I want now". Turns out a large chunk of people are just genuinely nasty bigots. People who I would never have thought it of and actually liked some of.

There's a lot more things to get angry about than the words of everyday people in the West.

People who do use racist language to another person, do it because they know it will make the person angry, and they do it to insult. Exactly the same reason people go around calling people, bigots, xenophobes ect. It's done to insult.

No difference, words are words, all words have meaning and history behind them.

Trying to defend one certain group of people from insults but not defending another group, isn't equality.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well, I suppose you do have experience of a PM who would lie through her teeth in order to gain or stay in power...

She may have voted in but Britain didn't.

She has to do what the voters want and they wanted Brexit so I don't get how she is lying

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Unlike Sturgeon, who is... perfect. Right?

During the Scottish referendum did she vote no then?..

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's worked here for long enough ...who would blame her?

The only reason Cameron had a second term was because labour had a useless idiot in charge then they go and replace him with another

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's clear what you said TS

It apparently isn't. And since you're not going to quote it, I'll do it for you. You're referring to this;

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

England is imploding into a harder-right isolationist mess, full of bolstered xenophobes.

You took that statement and selectively rephrased it into;

Originally Posted by jaxie

So you didn't call most of the English Xenophobes then? I pulled it from you, you typed it.

I have to wonder if you've been taking lessons? This "rewriting other people's words with a twist to suit a different agenda" thing seems to be becoming a bit of a trend .

If you open a bag of sugar and notice that it is crawling with ants, you might say "Ugh! This bag is full of ants!". Do you mean that it is literally a bag of ants? No. Do you mean that there are more ants than sugar? No. So you don't mean that "Most of the content of this bag is ANTS!" when you state that the bag is full of ants. I maintain that England is imploding into a harder-right isolationist mess, full of bolstered xenophobes. I do NOT mean that I think MOST English people are xenophobes. I didn't say it. You imagined that I did, but you're incorrect.

Niamh is right that it's not just England, to be fair, it's the entire Western political world but the key word here is bolstered, as I've covered in other posts.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She may have voted in but Britain didn't.

She has to do what the voters want and they wanted Brexit so I don't get how she is lying

She's bleating about it being a good thing when she quite clearly doesn't think it is and never thought it was. She's playing along with the popular vote because she doesn't want to hand over power to someone who actually agrees with it. She likes being PM and will put on any mask necessary to continue being PM.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh please, TS. Most English people couldn't care less whether Scotland stays or goes. In Scotland, however, the anti-English feeling is just a strong as it always was... for years and years and years.... Please don't try to say the English are anti-Scottish. It's definitely the other way around. And it's tedious and old.

Have you lived in both, Livia?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It apparently isn't. And since you're not going to quote it, I'll do it for you. You're referring to this;




You took that statement and selectively rephrased it into;



I have to wonder if you've been taking lessons? This "rewriting other people's words with a twist to suit a different agenda" thing seems to be becoming a bit of a trend .

If you open a bag of sugar and notice that it is crawling with ants, you might say "Ugh! This bag is full of ants!". Do you mean that it is literally a bag of ants? No. Do you mean that there are more ants than sugar? No. So you don't mean that "Most of the content of this bag is ANTS!" when you state that the bag is full of ants. I maintain that England is imploding into a harder-right isolationist mess, full of bolstered xenophobes. I do NOT mean that I think MOST English people are xenophobes. I didn't say it. You imagined that I did, but you're incorrect.

Niamh is right that it's not just England, to be fair, it's the entire Western political world but the key word here is bolstered, as I've covered in other posts.

No agenda here TS. I was on a device where I couldn't select and copy the phrase. It must be difficult living with such paranoia.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

No agenda here TS. I was on a device where I couldn't select and copy the phrase. It must be difficult living with such paranoia.

Was it also a device that falsely told you I had deleted a comment?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Was it also a device that falsely told you I had deleted a comment?

No that was human error, my mistake. For some reason my tablet won't let me select segments of text.

[Cherie]

Not Jaxie exposed as a human

[Niamh.]

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not Jaxie exposed as a human

The scandal!

[arista]

Feck Me he is back live on TV News
G.Brown and his tricks in his 3rd option.

Tell him to stand still



http://news.sky.com/story/gordon-bro...tland-10805675

[user104658]

I was reading about Brown's proposals this morning. It's not that they're necessarily bad, it's that if anyone falls for the same trick twice they are a ****ing idiot. Brown secured the "no" win last time by drawing up a "deal" for more powers, most of which was thrown straight in the bin the day after the vote. If it's not something legally binding, without scope for wriggling out of it, then I'm just not interested.


However he does raise a valid point about Brexit that I hadn't thought of before. What happens to all of the areas of legislation that used to be regional that the EU took control of after Brexit? As things stand, if the things currently controlled by Brussels transfer directly to Westminster, it will actually give Westminster a level of power and control that is unprecedented in the history of the UK.

[arista]

His plan can not work
the PM does agree with that twat

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

His plan can not work
the PM does agree with that twat

The plan is to convince gullible voters that they'll get something, influence the vote, then scrap it.

That plan clearly can and does work; it worked for them last time .

[arista]

"worked for them last time"

Yes when the UK was in the EU
we will so get out that mess
this time you get the €uro

and we are free of you UPTIGHT Scotts

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She may have voted in but Britain didn't.

She has to do what the voters want and they wanted Brexit so I don't get how she is lying

I agree. She is simply doing her job to the best of her ability.

[Kizzy]

Spoiler:

Could this statement be any more hypocritical?....


http://www.thecanary.co/2017/03/17/n...-us-now-image/

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Spoiler:

Could this statement be any more hypocritical?....


http://www.thecanary.co/2017/03/17/n...-us-now-image/

It's hilarious, we still don't know what Brexit is going to look like 8 months AFTER the vote . No idea.

To be fair to ol' Theresa though, she might not be being a hypocrite (with this at least) since, as we know, she was against Brexit too

[arista]

Now its the Scottish SNP Lady Live
too much clapping
after just a few fecking words

[Cherie]

Scottish Parliament have voted for a 2nd vote, quelle surprise

[ebandit]

...farewell scotland.................................

Mark L

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ebandit

...farewell scotland.................................

Mark L

Looks quite nice