[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So the Catholic v Protestant thing is simply a cover?

No need for the sarcasm Kizzy

The Irish in NI are mainly catholic because Ireland is mainly a Catholic country and the "British" in the Northern Ireland are mainly Protestant because Britain is a mainly protestant country. The catholics in NI are not trying to convert the Protestants or force their religious wills on the Protestants and vice versa so it's not a religious war imo, they were never fighting in the name of religion, it was always a nationality and civil rights issue not a religious one. It's Protestant V's catholics because like I said Irish are more often Catholics and British are more often Protestant

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No need for the sarcasm Kizzy

The Irish in NI are mainly catholic because Ireland is mainly a Catholic country and the "British" in the Northern Ireland are mainly Protestant because Britain is a mainly protestant country. The catholics in NI are not trying to convert the Protestants or force their religious wills on the Protestants so it's not a religious war imo, they were never fighting in the name of religion, it was always a nationality and civil rights issue not a religious one. It's Protestant V's catholics because like I said Irish are more often Catholics and British are more often Protestant

That's how i saw it aswell.Although i did work with an Irish lad who hated protestants.He'd call them "Dem ****'n steel rods" "Da ****'n prods".

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That's how i saw it aswell.Although i did work with an Irish lad who hated protestants.He'd call them "Dem ****'n steel rods" "Da ****'n prods".

Lovely But even there, I'm guessing he doesn't really hate them because they follow a slightly different version of Christianity to him, it was probably more like TS said, a tribal/national thing when you get down to it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No need for the sarcasm Kizzy

The Irish in NI are mainly catholic because Ireland is mainly a Catholic country and the "British" in the Northern Ireland are mainly Protestant because Britain is a mainly protestant country. The catholics in NI are not trying to convert the Protestants or force their religious wills on the Protestants so it's not a religious war imo, they were never fighting in the name of religion, it was always a nationality and civil rights issue not a religious one. It's Protestant V's catholics because like I said Irish are more often Catholics and British are more often Protestant

I wasn't being sarcastic, England wasn't mainly a Protestant country until the reformation, which was a very religious thing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I wasn't being sarcastic, England wasn't mainly a Protestant country until the reformation, which was a very religious thing.

The reformation was in the 16th century though, Northern Ireland was only formed in 1921, I'm talking specifically about NI

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The reformation was in the 16th century though, Northern Ireland was only formed in 1921, I'm talking specifically about NI

Yes so am I, the ill feeling goes back that far isn't that why Orangemen are called Orangemen?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes so am I, the ill feeling goes back that far isn't that why Orangemen are called Orangemen?

Kizzy the ill feeling is because Ireland was split in two and half the people wanted a unified Ireland and the other "British" half did not. The Orange men are just a way to show how British they are. There were actually Protestants who were in the IRA so that alone blows the theory of it being a religious war out of the water

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Kizzy the ill feeling is because Ireland was split in two and half the people wanted a unified Ireland and the other "British" half did not. The Orange men are just a way to show how British they are. There were actually Protestants who were in the IRA so that alone blows the theory of it being a religious war out of the water

There was only a British half as they were flooded in to choke off the threat of a catholic uprising from Spain using Ireland as a channel to England weren't they initially?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There was only a British half as they were flooded in to choke off the threat of a catholic uprising from Spain using Ireland as a channel to England weren't they initially?

It doesn't matter why they were there, they were there and that's not what the troubles in NI were about, it was about nationality and civil rights