[Withano]

TS was right all along, its a kebab.

[Denver]

A kebab is Turkish/Greek/Bulgarian/Pakistani so it isnt

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

also coming back to the point about "it being about nothing" every July, many families come south to avoid the Orange Men marching season, as the atmosphere is so intimidating, so even though there are "no troubles" as such, though to listen to someone from NI on the radio this morning there is still a lot going on that doesn't get reported in the rest of the UK ,there are still things going on that affect families and life in NI

What rubbish. I've never been intimidated. I let them get on with it, as do most of us. If you want trouble you'll get it no matter where you are. If you don't bother them, they won't bother you and vice versa. I remember the days when my parents took us to watch the 12th of July parade. There were plenty of Catholics who enjoyed the day out.
Nowadays, a minority of Catholics on the outskirts of Belfast city (where the main parades occur) live in certain 'flashpoints' and don't want them walking the traditional routes near their areas and there can be skirmishes. A 'Parades Commision' has been set up to try to settle the differences. But most of the parade occurs in the city centre and families and tourists come out in force and there is never any trouble there. Parades in other parts of N Ireland pass off peaceably too.
IMO let them have their culture, and let us have ours. There is far more to worry about in the world today than Protestants getting all patriotic about King Billy and marching about with their flutes and accordion bands.
This 'intimidating atmosphere' is just more hyperbole, it really is overly exaggerated and I'm sick of hearing it from people who don't even live here.

[Alf]

I'd say, Fish and Chips is the national dish.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Adam.

A kebab is Turkish/Greek/Bulgarian/Pakistani so it isnt

Most Brits are Turkish/Greek/Bulgarian/Pakistani tbf

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who suggested that though?

Nobody did.

I didn't say anybody suggested it, I said THE TONE suggested other religions were less willing to integrate.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

What rubbish. I've never been intimidated. I let them get on with it, as do most of us. If you want trouble you'll get it no matter where you are. If you don't bother them, they won't bother you and vice versa. I remember the days when my parents took us to watch the 12th of July parade. There were plenty of Catholics who enjoyed the day out.
Nowadays, a minority of Catholics on the outskirts of Belfast city (where the main parades occur) live in certain 'flashpoints' and don't want them walking the traditional routes near their areas and there can be skirmishes. A 'Parades Commision' has been set up to try to settle the differences. But most of the parade occurs in the city centre and families and tourists come out in force and there is never any trouble there. Parades in other parts of N Ireland pass off peaceably too.
IMO let them have their culture, and let us have ours. There is far more to worry about in the world today than Protestants getting all patriotic about King Billy and marching about with their flutes and accordion bands.
This 'intimidating atmosphere' is just more hyperbole, it really is overly exaggerated and I'm sick of hearing it from people who don't even live here.

Don't call my post rubbish thanks, I've met many NI families in the on holiday in the South in who July referred to this, you are speaking from your experience not the whole of NI, I lost all interest in what you had to say when you posted the DM as a credible piece of journalism on NI

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't call my post rubbish thanks, I've met many NI families in the on holiday in the South in who July referred to this, you are speaking from your experience not the whole of NI, I lost all interest in what you had to say when you posted the DM as a credible piece of journalism on NI

I didn't call your post rubbish, I was referring to what they have told you as rubbish. Who is supposed to be intimidating these many families? The Protestants or the Catholics? I could understand people feeling intimidated during the Troubles, but not before or after....
Some people just like to dramatise and tell people what they want to hear.

As for the DM Cherie, the article I was referring to was an essay written by a respectable author for the DM. If you only ever read things that you know you will agree with how will you ever get a balanced view of anything?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

True, as England has no culture.

Scotland has Haggis, Ireland has potatoes, England has... Doner Kebabs?

Potatoes and Guinness

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Potatoes and Guinness

I love that in Scotland, no one actually LIKES Guinness, but on St Patricks day everyone just ... drinks it anyway and suffers. Out of sheer respect. "I am not enjoying this AT ALL but it's St Paddys so..."

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I love that in Scotland, no one actually LIKES Guinness, but on St Patricks day everyone just ... drinks it anyway and suffers. Out of sheer respect. "I am not enjoying this AT ALL but it's St Paddys so..."

The only way i can drink Guinness is if I put a shot of Tia Maria or Kahlua in it, it's actually really nice then

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The only way i can drink Guinness is if I put a shot of Tia Maria or Kahlua in it, it's actually really nice then

When I was a lad my Dad used to say Guinness put hairs on your chest so I made sure I developed a taste for it when I came of drinking age.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

When I was a lad my Dad used to say Guinness put hairs on your chest so I made sure I developed a taste for it when I came of drinking age.

of course here in Cork it's Murphys all the way over Guinness

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

of course here in Cork it's Murphys all the way over Guinness

I like a Murphy's too. All this stout talk is making me thirsty, it's just as well Thursday is pub night (and Friday.)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

I like a Murphy's too. All this stout talk is making me thirsty, it's just as well Thursday is pub night (and Friday.)

I had a few cheeky glasses of wine last night, i feel very seedy today now though

[Northern Monkey]

Not gonna lie.Guiness was better in Belfast.Don't know if it was just my hotel and the pubs I visited but every pint was great.Usually hit and miss in England.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I had a few cheeky glasses of wine last night, i feel very seedy today now though

Awww, I sympathise, that's me on Fri and Sat mornings.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Not gonna lie.Guiness was better in Belfast.Don't know if it was just my hotel and the pubs I visited but every pint was great.Usually hit and miss in England.

I've heard a lot of people say that it tastes different (better) in Ireland, actually. I wonder if it's true or some sort of placebo effect .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

I didn't call your post rubbish, I was referring to what they have told you as rubbish. Who is supposed to be intimidating these many families? The Protestants or the Catholics? I could understand people feeling intimidated during the Troubles, but not before or after....
Some people just like to dramatise and tell people what they want to hear.

As for the DM Cherie, the article I was referring to was an essay written by a respectable author for the DM. If you only ever read things that you know you will agree with how will you ever get a balanced view of anything?

I do have a balanced view, just because I refuse to read articles in DM about it doesn't mean I don't read elsewhere, and if you think the DM presents a balanced view of Ireland you really need to widen your reading material. E

[jet]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Not gonna lie.Guiness was better in Belfast.Don't know if it was just my hotel and the pubs I visited but every pint was great.Usually hit and miss in England.

Evidence that Guinness is better in Ireland than elsewhere...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...and-world.html

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Not gonna lie.Guiness was better in Belfast.Don't know if it was just my hotel and the pubs I visited but every pint was great.Usually hit and miss in England.

Because pouring a pint is a craft that not every barperson can get right, , I hate Guinness, a disgusting drink

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've heard a lot of people say that it tastes different (better) in Ireland, actually. I wonder if it's true or some sort of placebo effect .

Yeah part of me thinks it was just me thinking 'i'm in Ireland drinking guiness,It's so much better here' although every pint was cold and didn't taste like it was sat festering in a barrel for a month.No bitterness from how I remember it.

[Niamh.]

Jet has posted the scientific evidence of why it's better in Ireland

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I do have a balanced view, just because I refuse to read articles in DM about it doesn't mean I don't read elsewhere, and if you think the DM presents a balanced view of Ireland you really need to widen your reading material. E

I don't think any paper presents a balanced view, they all have their own angles, the DM certainly do, but that doesn't mean everything they print is false or twisted. Their Essays by invited commentators or authors are always good reads. I read a wide variety of papers, I find it interesting to compare different perspectives and then make up my own mind.
I think you can safely read the above DM article on Guinness (not McGuinness) it's just as true as the article on him was, but you'll never have an opinion on that as you won't read it.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by jet

Evidence that Guinness is better in Ireland than elsewhere...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...and-world.html

That explains it then.Partly mental and partly because it has'nt had to emigrate.