[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sweetie no.

Why can't a higher being have created the Universe?

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Why can't a higher being have created the Universe?

for the same reason why i can't turn my water into wine after a long day at work

we are not living in a fantasy

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by RichardG

for the same reason why i can't turn my water into wine after a long day at work

we are not living in a fantasy

But you're talking about the Bible there, I'm just on about a higher being that created the Universe without any stories, hey Earth itself could be an experiment by Aliens for a TV Show like South Park joked about, you just never truly know.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Why can't a higher being have created the Universe?

Because it's scientifically not possible

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Because it's scientifically not possible

Silly us forgetting that scientific fact of where and how the universe first began.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Because it's scientifically not possible

You, nor the gratest scientific minds in the world, can not prove or disprove that.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Withano

You, nor the gratest scientific minds in the world, can not prove or disprove that.

Neither can religion. Based on what we do know it's more likely than a magic man in the sky though.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Neither can religion. Based on what we do know it's more likely than a magic man in the sky though.

More likely than - perhaps, up to each individual to decide for themselves.

This is you backtracking though, it was a firm no from you before. Good for you.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Withano

More likely than - perhaps, up to each individual to decide for themselves.

This is you backtracking though, it was a firm no from you before. Good for you.

Backtracking? I think I've made my point pretty clear throughout the thread?

You seem intent on challenging me on my point. Now I ask the same from you. How did the creation of the earth happen? I'll wait

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Backtracking? I think I've made my point pretty clear throughout the thread?

You seem intent on challenging me on my point. Now I ask the same from you. How did the creation of the earth happen? I'll wait

How would I, you, or the greatest scientific minds in the world possibly know the answer to that question.
I'll avoid attempting to answer so I don't look as daft as you have.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Neither can religion.

"Religion" doesn't pretend to have proof though. It why they call it "faith".

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"Religion" doesn't pretend to have proof though. It why they call it "faith".

Blind faith.

The problem is it is often used to control peoples' thoughts and therefore actions. Religion has been used as a weapon of abuse for centuries. Without it such abuse could not continue.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Blind faith.

The problem is it is often used to control peoples' thoughts and therefore actions. Religion has been used as a weapon of abuse for centuries. Without it such abuse could not continue.

That's quite naive to think. Without religion, yes it couldn't be used by people to manipulate it's meaning or cause for their own power and gain. But those people will simply find something else to twist to their own ends. Anyone who thinks any of these religions supports or condones these extremists who use religion as an excuse for their actions are wrong.

Just like every other organisation or position of power it's abused by evil people.

The problem isn't religion itself. It's greedy humans.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

You, nor the gratest scientific minds in the world, can not prove or disprove that.

They probably will one day. On the other hand God's, by whatever name, simply don't exist - it's just a state of mind.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

They probably will one day. On the other hand God's, by whatever name, simply don't exist - it's just a state of mind.

But until, and unless that day comes, you can't prove any of those statements.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Creation of the planet etc could be proven one day. Religion could not. Why do you feel the need to get so personal about it. That is pretty dickish in my opinion. Pot and kettle kind of mentality.

Originally Posted by Withano

But until, and unless that day comes, you can't prove any of those statements.

Your love of circles is excessive
A street preacher is a dick.. a person who preys on the vulnerable to convert to their religion? Dick. A person insulting everybody who doesn't think their way, they're a dick too. Me being a dick for calling them out? If you like luv.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Your love of circles is excessive
A street preacher is a dick.. a person who preys on the vulnerable to convert to their religion? Dick. A person insulting everybody who doesn't think their way, they're a dick too. Me being a dick for calling them out? If you like luv.

Same ole, same ole. As you and me and others are hardly innocent of said crime, singling out one poster's comments is nonsence. He certainly isn't a serial offender - unlike some.