[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Drew.

which charity

dogs trust

[T*]

It seems people aren't ****ing reading my posts correctly so I'm not going to give it my time of day anymore so I'm just going to ****ing bed bye

ENJOY YOURSELVES.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by That Girl

dogs trust

Here for it but Harry was awful

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by That Girl

dogs trust

harry amelia was better, take tom with you

Originally Posted by T*

It seems people aren't ****ing reading my posts correctly so I'm not going to give it my time of day anymore so I'm just going to ****ing bed bye

ENJOY YOURSELVES.

gnight

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by T*

It seems people aren't ****ing reading my posts correctly so I'm not going to give it my time of day anymore so I'm just going to ****ing bed bye

ENJOY YOURSELVES.

Shame, felt like we were really getting somewhere

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by T*

It seems people aren't ****ing reading my posts correctly so I'm not going to give it my time of day anymore so I'm just going to ****ing bed bye

ENJOY YOURSELVES.

K night hun

[T*]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Shame, felt like we were really getting somewhere

do you have a fedora or

[Braden]

Originally Posted by T*

The forum has become a chore because of you lot too I have grasped that it's your friend so it's natural for you to defend him but ffs you don't have to do it with every little criticism he gets. It's natural for some of us to just treat him like another housemate rather than a member on this forum and you have to respect that too. Two way street.

Not Raph being 'it'.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Braden

Not Raph being 'it'.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by T*

do you have a fedora or

I thought you'd left us to ENJOY OURSELVES

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

those braided/cotton thingy iphone charger cables are always stronger than the plastic ones

[Denver]

I dont get on with Tom but he has been treated appallingly tonight

[Mitchell]

This has been a thoroughly enjoying read, **** Raph, I want you lot in that house

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"All of a sudden"

Yeah because VTs are never analysed in the first week EVER.

they've also never caused huge grief when played into the house partway through the series.

You think people still give credence to VT big talk? I didn't think anyone did anymore.
It's usually not a good indicator at all of who will end up popular or otherwise.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by T*

do you have a fedora or

If that was a dig at me you can die.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

You think people still give credence to VT big talk? I didn't think anyone did anymore.
It's usually not a good indicator at all of who will end up popular or otherwise.

No but it's clearly a discussion topic in the first few days and always has been.

Nobody gives much credence to the show full stop but when discussing said show and its contestants it's one of the few things we have to go on at first until the storylines start and groups form. Especially in the days of zero live feed.

Besides which the topic of this thread is no longer a VT topic but made its way into the actual episode tonight so therefore... it will be discussed.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont get on with Tom but he has been treated appallingly tonight

The whole thing has gone crazy tbf on both sides.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No but it's clearly a discussion topic in the first few days and always has been.

Nobody gives much credence to the show full stop but when discussing said show and its contestants it's one of the few things we have to go on at first until the storylines start and groups form. Especially in the days of zero live feed.

Besides which the topic of this thread is no longer a VT topic but made its way into the actual episode tonight so therefore... it will be discussed.

Oh right. I usually don't bother coming here until it's been going a week or two.
Just popped in to see how our first tibb member in the house was faring on here. Oh boy, this is going to be a season to remember...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Oh right. I usually don't bother coming here until it's been going a week or two.
Just popped in to see how our first tibb member in the house was faring on here. Oh boy, this is going to be a season to remember...

I don't want to witness it.

[Ninastar]

Okay now that I've watched the episode, I will give my opinion.

Yes, I can see why people thought this was fake. It doesn't look genuine and you don't ever see tears on this show anyway. However, I know for a fact (through having a heart to heart with raph lol) that he truly does feel awful about this. I know that people will struggle to see it like that but I also know this thread was made just to cause arguments/ a scene/ w.e.

It's difficult to see people so happy to slate raph and knowing they are doing it to piss his friends off, but there's nothing that can be done about that really. And yeah, I know some people genuinely aren't liking what they are seeing, but a good majority are totally enjoying the fact that they can slate/hate/bitch about him, just because he's a housemate.

[caprimint]

Just watched this and I'm struggling to see where anybody was 'applauding' the fact he cheated.

Just because you defend or even support a housemate doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they say/do, on the show or in their past.

[Babayaro.]

Here for Raph winning. The fumes would be a delight! x

[AnnieK]

Wow...This is going to be a tough season. Every year we have threads where people defend their faves and people who don't like them critise them. This is no different but it seems that people who have met raph are being accused of only defending him because they've met him but surely that is more of a reason to defend someone than just because they like them off the show??? I've not seen anyone saying he is above criticism and therefore no one is trying to shut anyone down.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Just watched this and I'm struggling to see where anybody was 'applauding' the fact he cheated.

Just because you defend or even support a housemate doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they say/do, on the show or in their past.

You watched but didn't see the housemates applaude it?

[Vanessa]

I like him. I think he's sweet. We all make mistakes when we're young. I'm even guilty of cheating myself in the past. I was very young at the time. I regret it now, but i can't change the past.