[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lstan

Ah well I'm having trouble with my agents so am having to find a new place to live but such is life.

In regards to the HM actually I had some admiration for BB this year as it seemed they made an attempt to find a range of housemates in regards of considering how they would get on with each other not just how they are as individual characters. But yeah personally none of them stand out for me tbh. I agree with a lot of the points you made in this thread, as someone who's mixed race its nice to see someone whos empathetic

aww thanks

I like Raph and Charlotte most but they're getting zero airtime.

Hope you get a place sorted soon

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

aww thanks

I like Raph and Charlotte most but they're getting zero airtime.

Hope you get a place sorted soon

Thank you hon! I also meant to say you and Dezzy are understanding too which is cool

Yes Raph seems to be popluar, he reminds me of that american model, I cant remember her name. I hope they dont stick in any more housemates like they like to do as I feel we still need to get to know these ones!

[Vicky.]

They came across aggressive. Both sisters.

You cannot be aggressive, be called out on it then moan that you are only called aggressive because you are black. No love, you were called aggressive as you were aggressive. Simples.

[starry]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

the British population (mostly) think differently. its not just on big brother of course the same case can be found with other shows like the x factor to an extent although sara was the better singer matt won. though not everyone thinks that way of course a large majority sadly does

I'm not sure most of the BB audience actually likes Nikki, she was voted out after all. Obviously she has some fans as well, but I think it's the promotion of her by Endemol that has helped her more than anything. They have really built her up. I can't speak for X-Factor as I don't watch it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Caravan

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Why wasn't Tom labelled aggressive by other HMs for slamming all the stuff off the kitchen counter in a previous episode?

I labelled Tom aggressive for this as it was an aggressive act

I didn't see this slipper thing but the bag thing was clearly NOT aggressive. However the way Sukhvinder reacted to it was aggressive.

Imran comes across aggressive most of the time when he's doing Sukhs bidding tbh.

Kayleigh is aggressive in general (when arguing especially. was much worse on EOTB) and also..I did think Kayleigh was black? :S

And both Deborah and Hannah come across aggressive a lot of the time They shout a hell of a lot and go OTT. Sometimes it seems they are spitting words at people. If anyone else went on like that they would be labelled aggressive. And there would be no problem labeling aggressiveness as aggressive. But for some reason everyone is meant to ignore it the person being aggressive is a black woman? Yes its a stereotype of black women, but if its happening in front of our eyes, its not wrong to call it out. I don't get it tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

They came across aggressive. Both sisters.

You cannot be aggressive, be called out on it then moan that you are only called aggressive because you are black. No love, you were called aggressive as you were aggressive. Simples.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

the British population (mostly) think differently. its not just on big brother of course the same case can be found with other shows like the x factor to an extent although sara was the better singer matt won. though not everyone thinks that way of course a large majority sadly does

Bake off

Strictly

Masterchef

Please add Sara was a better singer IN YOUR OPINION ,but not in the judges opinion

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

They came across aggressive. Both sisters.

You cannot be aggressive, be called out on it then moan that you are only called aggressive because you are black. No love, you were called aggressive as you were aggressive. Simples.

Sums it up spot on !!

[Vicky.]

Also OT but I need to comment on this. Sara was a better singer IMO too, and a better performer. I genuinely think matt only won as they pushed his 'sob story' all the way through. And it wasn't even worthy of sympathy ffs, he got dumped. Big deal. And yes. I did like Matt too.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also OT but I need to comment on this. Sara was a better singer IMO too, and a better performer. I genuinely think matt only won as they pushed his 'sob story' all the way through. And it wasn't even worthy of sympathy ffs, he got dumped. Big deal. And yes. I did like Matt too.

That happens in most shows now sadly,that why I stopped watching them all ,but its nothing to do with the colour of anyones skin

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Bake off

Strictly

Masterchef

Please add Sara was a better singer IN YOUR OPINION ,but not in the judges opinion

Bake off winner isn't chosen by the public if it was it would be a different story. typically poc aren't usually voted in though there are exceptions of course
and overall the judges did seem to think she was the better singer as they all said (apart from Nicole) that she should win and simon seemed very pissed when she didn't win. they coy=uld just be saying that to everyone

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Forgot about that. Wasn't it Rebecca that compared racism to her "no hiring without makeup" policy?

She didn't

Someone asked what 'discrimination' meant, and Rebecca replied that it was like racism. Which is sort of right, but wrong at the same time.

Can't bloody stand Rebecca but theres enough to complain about with her without twisting her words

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

Bake off winner isn't chosen by the public if it was it would be a different story. typically poc aren't usually voted in though there are exceptions of course
and overall the judges did seem to think she was the better singer as they all said (apart from Nicole) that she should win and simon seemed very pissed when she didn't win. they coy=uld just be saying that to everyone

Yes it would as she bloody ****e !! Did you see the cake she made for the queen ?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She didn't

Someone asked what 'discrimination' meant, and Rebecca replied that it was like racism. Which is sort of right, but wrong at the same time.

Can't bloody stand Rebecca but theres enough to complain about with her without twisting her words

And the minute Sukhvinder said no it isn't like racism Rebecca pipes up with "Oh here we go" Rebecca comes across like she's waiting for these poc to live up to a stereotype she clearly believes

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also OT but I need to comment on this. Sara was a better singer IMO too, and a better performer. I genuinely think matt only won as they pushed his 'sob story' all the way through. And it wasn't even worthy of sympathy ffs, he got dumped. Big deal. And yes. I did like Matt too.

Exactly!!! I did like matt but his voice was nothing compared to Saras and an incredible performer. its quite funny how saras now doing a concert in finland and matt terry is the supporting act. I think most people voted for matt terry because most of the people who watch x factor are ten year old girls who find him hot

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And the minute Sukhvinder said no it isn't like racism Rebecca pipes up with "Oh here we go" Rebecca comes across like she's waiting for these poc to live up to a stereotype she clearly believes

I kinda took that to be 'oh here we go' about another Sukhvinder rant tbh. But yeah I guess it could be something else

Tbh though, Sukh does mention race a LOT. As does her husband. So I kind of understand people thinking ffs not again when she goes off on one

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

Bake off winner isn't chosen by the public if it was it would be a different story. typically poc aren't usually voted in though there are exceptions of course
and overall the judges did seem to think she was the better singer as they all said (apart from Nicole) that she should win and simon seemed very pissed when she didn't win. they coy=uld just be saying that to everyone

Strictly .... Danny by far the best dancer ,fav to win ,Louise 2nd best dancer and 2nd fav to win ....Ore ???????? but won ...could that have anything to do with Facebook,Twitter claiming (the same series) that a black person had never made it to the finals ( they had) then low and behold, the rank outsider won ....come on don't tell me the PC brigade have nothing to do with the result

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

Exactly!!! I did like matt but his voice was nothing compared to Saras and an incredible performer. its quite funny how saras now doing a concert in finland and matt terry is the supporting act. I think most people voted for matt terry because most of the people who watch x factor are ten year old girls who find him hot

Still bitter that Christian didn;t get through tbh. He was my fave by a bloody mile/ I remember when Sara was put through and I was like..wtf shes rubbish compared to others who were turned down. I believe it was the first live show that she changed my mind But I was like that with Diana Vickers too...thought she was a bad pick at judges houses then the first live show she was amazing...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I kinda took that to be 'oh here we go' about another Sukhvinder rant tbh. But yeah I guess it could be something else

Tbh though, Sukh does mention race a LOT. As does her husband. So I kind of understand people thinking ffs not again when she goes off on one

That was really early on though, might have even been the first day so it would have been a bit premature for that I think

[starry]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And the minute Sukhvinder said no it isn't like racism Rebecca pipes up with "Oh here we go" Rebecca comes across like she's waiting for these poc to live up to a stereotype she clearly believes

I didn't really feel that, she'd be quite happy I expect in a house without people shouting their heads off.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by starry

I didn't really feel that, she'd be quite happy I expect in a house without people shouting their heads off.

I don't think Rebecca would be "quite happy" anywhere tbh, miserable old cow

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That was really early on though, might have even been the first day so it would have been a bit premature for that I think

I can well believe that she had mentioned race at least 20 times on the first day

I say this every ****ing year but we need live feed to understand whats actually going on in there. Anyone can be edited into anything really :S The editing doesn't seem as bad as usual this year BUT I have noticed them 'end scene' in the middle of someones sentence, which can totally change the meaning of what they are saying :S

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I can well believe that she had mentioned race at least 20 times on the first day

I say this every ****ing year but we need live feed to understand whats actually going on in there. Anyone can be edited into anything really :S The editing doesn't seem as bad as usual this year BUT I have noticed them 'end scene' in the middle of someones sentence, which can totally change the meaning of what they are saying :S

Yes well we aren't never ever get them days back Vicky I'm afraid

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think Rebecca would be "quite happy" anywhere tbh, miserable old cow

Ugh yes.I wanted to throw something at the TV yesterday when she was whingeing about how there were people/cameras watching and she couldn't have a private conversation with the guy she wants to **** but denies that she does. I mean, what did you expect you moany git? You chose to go on BB. You knew there were cameras. You knew it wouldn't be 'just how we are outside'. Also, she said she didn't want to be there. I really want BB to just boot out people who say that. Imagine them just opening the door and saying 'the exit is to your left, goodbye'...watching them backpedal would be great

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I can well believe that she had mentioned race at least 20 times on the first day

I say this every ****ing year but we need live feed to understand whats actually going on in there. Anyone can be edited into anything really :S The editing doesn't seem as bad as usual this year BUT I have noticed them 'end scene' in the middle of someones sentence, which can totally change the meaning of what they are saying :S

I know we haven't seen as much of him as some of the others so it's possible that could sway things, but ignoring his VT Raph has been edited exactly like he is in person, so at this point I do think they edit people quite fairly