[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

Andrew has gone uo in my estimation, he's actually told Joe that he has a problem with him to his face which some of them in there can't do. Joe is actually cementing himself as the evictee this week, it's so funny

Indeed. More of them need to do this tbh,m even if he does take a 2 day long strop after being told some truths

[Ellen]

Joe is talking to someone else and Andrew butts in on the conversation with his two penneth worth, gets told to mind his own. Andrew doesnt like been told to butt out and patronises Joe and Joe is in the wrong

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Indeed, would be true to form though, lets be honest. If I was to throw a guess in I wonder was Joe horrible to Raph again maybe and Andrew stuck up for him?

Correct. Andrew got upset about the way Joe was talking about Raph.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Correct. Andrew got upset about the way Joe was talking about Raph.

in other words a situation that was none of his business

just showing off to Raph to get likes and in the meantime bullying Joe

What pair of nasty people

[Northern Monkey]

Andrew seems to have been watching the show and gone in with preconceived ideas and is trying to make a name for himself.He's not even tried to get along with Joe and Sue is just like some cheerleader.Very disappointing.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Andrew seems to have been watching the show and gone in with preconceived ideas and is trying to make a name for himself.He's not even tried to get along with Joe and Sue is just like some cheerleader.Very disappointing.

He's right about Joe. The guy is a twat.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's right about Joe. The guy is a twat.

But so is Andrew.Two twats who don't like each other

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

But so is Andrew.Two twats who don't like each other

Andrew isn't rude and doesn't act like he owns the place.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andrew isn't rude and doesn't act like he owns the place.

He's gone in with a right attitude rather than giving everyone a chance

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in other words a situation that was none of his business

just showing off to Raph to get likes and in the meantime bullying Joe

What pair of nasty people

Andrew can speak to whoever he likes, he doesn't need the likes of Joe telling when he can and cannot speak

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

He's gone in with a right attitude rather than giving everyone a chance

We will have to see after tonight show. The housemates were on Andrew side.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in other words a situation that was none of his business

just showing off to Raph to get likes and in the meantime bullying Joe

What pair of nasty people

I think it is more a case of them trying & succeeding to push Joe's buttons than him theirs. He would be quite happy not talking to them.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Andrew can speak to whoever he likes, he doesn't need the likes of Joe telling when he can and cannot speak

So according to Joe Raph can't even talk now. If i was Raph i would tell Joe to **** off

[armand.kay]

Andrew having Joe all types of shook with by calling him "Darling"

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Andrew having Joe all types of shook with by calling him "Darling"

i love Andrew!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Indeed, would be true to form though, lets be honest. If I was to throw a guess in I wonder was Joe horrible to Raph again maybe and Andrew stuck up for him?

Looks like I guessed correctly

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ickshanks.html

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andrew isn't rude and doesn't act like he owns the place.

Andrew also likes Raph

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Looks like I guessed correctly

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ickshanks.html

I bet if anyone else had made that comment Joe would have said nothing. Nut because it was Raph he piped up

[Vicky.]

What I don't get about this whole 'in it for the money' thing right is this...one all of them are there for the money. Maybe raph less so than others as he is a big fan, but the show would have no applicants without a prize fund. But two, Raph was saying the other day how awful it was for Joe to be there for the money and that...yet its fine for his mates to say the same thing.

Hypocritical tosspots.

This 'in it for the money' thing is just as bad as people moaning that 'X is in here to won'...well...they are all there to win too. No one is really going to go in thinking 'I really hope I lose'

Lying tosspots

Also 'gameplaying' annoys me year after year as they all have a gameplan, just some are more interesting to watch than others. Worst one is staying quiet and staying out of all arguments to coast to the final.

Fake tosspots.

Finally the recent criticisms of Raph being a superfan. WHY IS THIS BAD?!

Total tosspots.

If noone got that... Tosspots, the lot of them

[Nancy.]

Andrew making his gob work like the clappers while he's sitting behind all those women. So brave (Not).

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What I don't get about this whole 'in it for the money' thing right is this...one all of them are there for the money. Maybe raph less so than others as he is a big fan, but the show would have no applicants without a prize fund. But two, Raph was saying the other day how awful it was for Joe to be there for the money and that...yet its fine for his mates to say the same thing.

Hypocritical tosspots.

This 'in it for the money' thing is just as bad as people moaning that 'X is in here to won'...well...they are all there to win too. No one is really going to go in thinking 'I really hope I lose'

Lying tosspots

Also 'gameplaying' annoys me year after year as they all have a gameplan, just some are more interesting to watch than others. Worst one is staying quiet and staying out of all arguments to coast to the final.

Fake tosspots.

Finally the recent criticisms of Raph being a superfan. WHY IS THIS BAD?!

Total tosspots.

If noone got that... Tosspots, the lot of them

Eloquently put Vicky

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Looks like I guessed correctly

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ickshanks.html

Housemates agree with him. Sue adds; “Joe is angry as he’s up this week!”

Joe is just angry fullstop I think

I don't get how, right after Deborah says she would take the money, Joe claps, and then Raph says shes not in it for the money? She literally JUST said shes there for the money

Mind, Raph will know that (for some bizarre reason) saying you are there for money turns viewers against you, so maybe he was trying damage control for his mate

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Joe is just angry fullstop I think

I don't get how, right after Deborah says she would take the money, Joe claps, and then Raph says shes not in it for the money? She literally JUST said shes there for the money

Mind, Raph will know that (for some bizarre reason) saying you are there for money turns viewers against you, so maybe he was trying damage control for his mate

From reading the article I would have took that to mean that Deborah already feels like she got the experience now so would take the money and have had both? But that's just what it sounded like to me

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Andrew can speak to whoever he likes, he doesn't need the likes of Joe telling when he can and cannot speak

Indeed.

Actually that reminds me of something from yesterdays noms that I don;t think has been picked up on. Andrew (I think it was) nominating Joe as Joe tells the others they can't go in the garden when he is talking to Kieran and Tom?

He is so hostile

I hate the 'we have been here longer' thing too. Absolutely hate it. And Joe seems to be the worst for this. Thinking he owns the house basically as he has done an extra few weeks. Seems to be only him this year though, usually when newbies go in, its the entire cast of older housemates against them

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed.

Actually that reminds me of something from yesterdays noms that I don;t think has been picked up on. Andrew (I think it was) nominating Joe as Joe tells the others they can't go in the garden when he is talking to Kieran and Tom?

He is so hostile

I hate the 'we have been here longer' thing too. Absolutely hate it. And Joe seems to be the worst for this. Thinking he owns the house basically as he has done an extra few weeks. Seems to be only him this year though, usually when newbies go in, its the entire cast of older housemates against them

This may be the reason that Raph is reluctant to go in the garden sometimes. And possibly the others feel the same way when they see Joe's and Kieran talking.