[bots]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Anybody that can't pronounce "Karthik" is a moron that deserves to be called out. It's an easy name to pronounce.

no its not, one needs to have a lisp to say it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no its not, one needs to have a lisp to say it

So you need a lisp to say 'Car Thick'?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So a food stuff is racist is this what you're claiming ?

Well clearly not, but you know this.

Mocking an Indian woman by replacing her actual name with Indian food names is racist. Quite obviously.

You might be ok with mocking people, but in the real world it's not an acceptable form of bullying.

[JerseyWins]

Yeah, it's kinda not right to purposely mispronounce someone's name just because they have a unique, foreign name. The reason I don't have an issue with it is the context from Paul. He was just repeating a joke that was based on someone else accidentally mispronouncing Karthik's name and it was just in a joking manner as well rather than with malicious or condescending intent.

It's very understandable for Karthik to take it personally for a second as well without realizing the context, honest misunderstanding, etc.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well clearly not, but you know this.

Mocking an Indian woman by replacing her actual name with Indian food names is racist. Quite obviously.

You might be ok with mocking people, but in the real world it's not an acceptable form of bullying.

So its only a rule for Indian women ?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So its only a rule for Indian women ?

Who else was called "poppadom"? Let's stick to what actually happened and not try to reduce the abuse Shilpa received daily to "all she said was poppadom, it's a food". That's called ignorance, something Jade was guilty of too.

Let's not pretend Jade was accused of racism for daring to use the word "poppadom".

She was called out for deliberately selecting that as a name replacement to insult an Indian woman she didn't like and wanted to mock. And who she, and her friends, continually mocked her name, accent and culture. It wasn't an isolated incident for which Jade was labelled racist or a bully but several days/even weeks of abuse. We all watched it.

This diversionary tactic does not work. It was very simply racism and no amount of trying to trivialise it will change that.

[Northern Monkey]

I just thought he had a lisp and he was saying car sick

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

What pissed me off is that others also called him Qatar, but he only pulled the race card on Paul. Idiot

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

What pissed me off is that others also called him Qatar, but he only pulled the race card on Paul. Idiot

correct

they were all at it but for some reason Paul was attacked?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who else was called "poppadom"? Let's stick to what actually happened and not try to reduce the abuse Shilpa received daily to "all she said was poppadom, it's a food". That's called ignorance, something Jade was guilty of too.

Let's not pretend Jade was accused of racism for daring to use the word "poppadom".

She was called out for deliberately selecting that as a name replacement to insult an Indian woman she didn't like and wanted to mock. And who she, and her friends, continually mocked her name, accent and culture. It wasn't an isolated incident for which Jade was labelled racist or a bully but several days/even weeks of abuse. We all watched it.

This diversionary tactic does not work. It was very simply racism and no amount of trying to trivialise it will change that.

Ok lovely But you can twist it anyway you wish, but you will never make a popadom a race

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ok lovely But you can twist it anyway you wish, but you will never make a popadom a race

Nobody said a poppadom was a race sweet heart.

A racial slur itself isn't a race, it's when words are used to mock a race they become racist. But don't worry, everybody has to learn new things.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Is it wrong that I prefer nans?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by thisisdanny

I'm aware poppadom is not a race

[Withano]

Everyone else was saying Kafar, which is just rude.. he thought Danan said Qatar, which is relatively racist and a level above 'Kafar'. Idk how this is still beig discussed. Pauls rudeness was misunderstood as racism, whilst the rudeness of others was not. Maybe they announciated their syllables better.

[reece(:]

Qatar has racist connotations.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by waterhog

I am with karthik on this one. paul just running mouth and not listening.

Oh ffs this same thing happened in 2001 with Narinder when no one could pronounce her name. She ranted in the diary room but never pulled out the racist card. I can't pronounce his name and I think Narinder is a bb legend! does that make me racist? I even chat to her on facebook people need to stop pulling out the racist or homophobic card coz it's killing the show

[T*]

It's a mess that you were expecting him to use a race card in the first place
That is problematique

[Marsh.]

I don't think it's about not being able to pronounce it. I find that a rather lame excuse.

If it was written down and someone didn't know how to pronounce it from reading it, then fair enough. I've run into that problem many times.

But when you have the person whose name it is actually telling you their name, it's easy to simply say it the way they're telling you. It's ignorance at best to continually get it wrong.

In the case of Danan, that's irrelevant as he purposely got it wrong as a joke. He admitted that.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Withano

Everyone else was saying Kafar, which is just rude.. he thought Danan said Qatar, which is relatively racist and a level above 'Kafar'. Idk how this is still beig discussed. Pauls rudeness was misunderstood as racism, whilst the rudeness of others was not. Maybe they announciated their syllables better.

Why would he be Intentionally racist on TV? ....career over.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Why would he be I tentinally racist on TV? ....career over.

Genuine question, but does he have a career to lose?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Why would he be I tentinally racist on TV? ....career over.

He wasnt. None of them were. Stop reading my posts with your angry eyes, I never said that

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Genuine question, but does he have a career to lose?

He has a career to gain back and that's why he's in cbb.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Withano

He wasnt. None of them were. Stop reading my posts with your angry eyes, I never said that

Excuse me I have gorgeous green eyes lol I'm the only ****ing member to put a photo of myself on here so go **** yourself.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

I'm the only ****ing member to put a photo of myself on here so go **** yourself.

I don't know what relevance this has to the discussion or what Withano said but... no you're not, the MTM thread is full of our photos.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Excuse me I have gorgeous green eyes lol I'm the only ****ing member to put a photo of myself on here so go **** yourself.

Oh haha. That makes me look bitchier than I intended. My post was nothing to do with your avatar or your beautiful green eyes! I just felt as if you read my post with an angrier tone that the tone I wrote it in.