[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This child has been removed from her carbonara making mother to the safety of this family, I think it's important to maintain some perspective on this issue.

Wow, just wow.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Whose making a lot of assumptions now. You know nothing about the family circumstances and how temporary the situation may be. Neither do you know how 'safe' this foster family is.

To automatically believe all foster families are good, safe, caring people is naive and being biased towards a group of people is no better than being biased against.

Originally Posted by parmnion

Wow, just wow.

You know it's a bizarre day on TiBB when I find myself agreeing with Brillo and Parm... but, yeah.

Kizzy I'm sort of really surprised at the judgement here; children end up in the care system for all sorts of reasons and we have no idea at all what her circumstances are. We also have no idea what the circumstances in the foster care home are. And whilst, yes, there is a decent chance that people are pre-judging the situation based on prejudice, (...gulp...) what Brillo says is true . "Positive discrimination and bias" towards a group of people isn't a lot better than the opposite; especially in a sensitive situation like this. "Assuming the best" doesn't redress others "assuming the worst". We don't know if the situation is good. We don't know if it's bad. And we don't know why she's there. At the end of the day it doesn't sound like the placement is right for this child, that much can be more or less deduced, and that's all that really matters here.

There's a time and a place for trying to address issues of racial / cultural discrimination where it exists. Finding the right home for a child is NOT that time or place.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know it's a bizarre day on TiBB when I find myself agreeing with Brillo and Parm... but, yeah.

Kizzy I'm sort of really surprised at the judgement here; children end up in the care system for all sorts of reasons and we have no idea at all what her circumstances are. We also have no idea what the circumstances in the foster care home are. And whilst, yes, there is a decent chance that people are pre-judging the situation based on prejudice, (...gulp...) what Brillo says is true . "Positive discrimination and bias" towards a group of people isn't a lot better than the opposite; especially in a sensitive situation like this. "Assuming the best" doesn't redress others "assuming the worst". We don't know if the situation is good. We don't know if it's bad. And we don't know why she's there. At the end of the day it doesn't sound like the placement is right for this child, that much can be more or less deduced, and that's all that really matters here.

There's a time and a place for trying to address issues of racial / cultural discrimination where it exists. Finding the right home for a child is NOT that time or place.

We don't know why she is in the care system other than that she was 'forcibly' separated from her family, and that she has been in the system for months and months and months, it is not fair for the mother complain that she has not been placed with grandparents, if that was a viable option, and in the majority of cases it is that would have been the first place social services would be looking to place her.

The 'friends' of the family making complaints to have added fuel to the fire of discrimination against the family without any real evidence, it's been taken as red that the child has been in some way been 'abused' by hearing foreign voices, not been served bacon and other alleged slurs against Christian holidays. It's being turned into a witch hunt and personally I find it really distasteful.

We only have one side on this 'debate' which is the slanted article in the Times, therefore I'm not sure how me calling for perspective is so hilarious :/