[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They are driven by irrationality and ignorance. You've taken what would be a rare and almost unheard of hypothetical scenario and you are treating it like it would be the norm and whether you intend to or not, you are demonising transgendered people by putting them all in the same light as sexual predators.

A man isn't going to be able to say 'I'm a woman now' and stroll into the women's changing room just like that even if self certification becomes a thing. Women won't be made to have intimate examinations done by someone they aren't comfortable with doing it. You've taken what is a story that was confirmed on all sides to be a clerical error, ignored all logic and reasoning that said it was so in order to fuel your own agenda of hating anything that isn't exactly like you.

You should pay attention, I've said to you a few times in this topic that I disagree with self certification, the current process we have isn't perfect and there are many transgendered people who are unhappy with the choices they've made and I think taking the professionals out of the equation to help guide people to the correct solution for themselves is a mistake. I actually agree with Theresa May in saying that transgendered people shouldn't be treated like they are ill but it should be mandatory that experts in the field oversee the process to make sure it's the right thing for the person in question.

As for your 'it doesn't affect you' line. Does sexual assault only happen to women in women's changing rooms? Men can be just as dangerous to other men, just like women can assault other women. Do you treat other women with such suspicion, sure, sexual assault by a woman on another woman in a changing room is probably rare but probably not as rare as an attack by a 'transgendered' person that's only pretending to be transgendered in order to rape people. Where's your concern for the safety of women from other women? Do you understand what I'm getting at here? You are using an almost unheard type of incident to fuel your agenda and it's just foolishness. There are many real issues that plague women regarding their safety that are way more common than the hypotheticals you are spouting but I doubt you'll ever talk about them since you only seem concerned about feminism when it's in regards to 'justifying' your hatred of whatever people you hate on any given day.

I think in all the years I've known you, in both names you've had on this website. I'm not sure I've ever seen you comment on a feminist issue that hasn't involved trying to justify your prejudices in some way. You pretend to be a feminist but you just want to vindicate your hatred.

There you go again - with the hate. That is a word far more common in your vocabulary than mine.

Every time I express opinions on anything involving a minority group you stereotype me as a racist, homophobe etc. Classic shut-down tactics and your problem not mine.

You’re not a woman, you don’t how it feels to be a woman and you will never really get it so don’t try and kid people you know more about feminism than women. You are not the thought police however hard you try to be.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There you go again - with the hate. That is a word far more common in your vocabulary than mine.

Every time I express opinions on anything involving a minority group you stereotype me as a racist, homophobe etc. Classic shut-down tactics and your problem not mine.

You’re not a woman, you don’t how it feels to be a woman and you will never really get it so don’t try and kid people you know more about feminism than women. You are not the thought police however hard you try to be.

The only person trying to shut anyone down is you by trying to make out that I'm the 'thought police' for saying my opinion. It's what you always do and then in the same breath you'll accuse other people of doing the same to you.

You have no self awareness to the point that it's just bizarre at this point.

I don't claim to know more about feminism than most women, I just know more about it than a faux feminist like you that only mentions feminism when it comes to hating muslims or whichever minority whose turn it is to deserve your bile. You'll accept things like the DUP/Tory deal despite the fact that the DUP want to erode women's rights just because it serves your real agenda of hating muslims/immigrants etc. You are only a feminist when it serves your HATE and yes I will use that word because, while you don't use the word often, it defines who you are as a person perfectly.

Your opinion is not protected from criticism, Brillo. No one's is so stop trying to make out that no one can comment on what is frequent and obvious bigotry on your part. If you don't like those claims refute them.

This is a debate section, DEBATE.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The only person trying to shut anyone down is you by trying to make out that I'm the 'thought police' for saying my opinion. It's what you always do and then in the same breath you'll accuse other people of doing the same to you.

You have no self awareness to the point that it's just bizarre at this point.

I don't claim to know more about feminism than most women, I just know more about it than a faux feminist like you that only mentions feminism when it comes to hating muslims or whichever minority whose turn it is to deserve your bile. You'll accept things like the DUP/Tory deal despite the fact that the DUP want to erode women's rights just because it serves your real agenda of hating muslims/immigrants etc. You are only a feminist when it serves your HATE and yes I will use that word because, while you don't use the word often, it defines who you are as a person perfectly.

Your opinion is not protected from criticism, Brillo. No one's is so stop trying to make out that no one can comment on what is frequent and obvious bigotry on your part. If you don't like those claims refute them.

This is a debate section, DEBATE.

You seriously think you debate. Plenty of people have tried debating with you and clearly winning the arguement but you always turn it into how right you are and how ignorant and ill-informed they are, same old lines. You will not admit to your failings and just keep playing the same self-righteous saviour of all things minority.

You in all your wisdom state as fact I HATE Muslims because I don’t approve of mass migration and do not support the wearing of a Burkha in public. Now I aaparently hate transgender men because I don’t want female privacy and choice eroded and point out the obvious risks associated with allowing any man claiming to be female in female areas. If those opinions in ithemselves define hate in your world then bully for you, but it is a very small and convenient world you live in.

What about all the victims worldwide, mainly women, of Islamic hate, hate that kills and controls, but ssshh we can’t mention that - it isn’t PC.