[Maru]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well if we are honest, most times you can tell. Especially with transwomen. Transmen do tend to pass very well in a few cases but they still have vaginas, and if they do not, its still not a 'penis'

The likes of Blair White pass very well...male friends have said they do find Blair attractive facially and such but could not sleep with someone who has a penis, as they are not gay. Even with SRS, its not a 'vagina...its an inverted penis or bits of colon made into a hole. So its still different. So I definitely understand saying you could never go there sexually tbh. It does noone any favours to pretend neovaginas are actual vaginas.

Yeah Blaire White is definitely passing. She hasn't had the surgery though, she opted to keep her original equipment because she didn't want to lose the ability to orgasm (very understandable)

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Tends to only be applied to lesbians. Its not just transactivists, a lot of 'normal' transgender people are the same. Lesbians are transphobic bigots as penises on transwomen are female body parts and as such, its the vagina they want so they are vagina fetishists and need to get over their bigotry.

Sounds mental, but its actually fairly common these days. Literally every lesbians friend I have has had an experience with a person like this.

Youtube video

Watch this, if you have spare time. Its all absolutely bat****.

This video is such trash but a surprising amt of folk who exist out there think this way.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I have learned much from you on this topic.
I’ve seen that Riley before on Youtube.He/she/they seems like they have alot of growing up to do.
This whole agenda seems to have gone from ‘we want acceptance’ to ‘we want to reshape the world around us and force you all to think,feel and be how we want or you’re an evil bigoted transphobe’

Agreed, it's gone too far. Now it's all about making grandiose moral accusations and covering up their own prejudice with emotional arguments whose sole purpose is to dictate to others and bully them into accepting their premise. It's no different than any other prejudice if you really listen to the reasoning behind their views and see the cues. There are some darker elements hiding behind these views, because when you feel you're superior enough to dictate to the rest of the group how the world not only should but MUST operate in order to achieve "total acceptance"... it's too similar for me to the Scientology scam and trying to achieve "clear".

And many of the arguments have a very strong hierarchy to them. Your gender/racial label literally dictates how you are expected to be treated/perceived.. and there's nothing you can do to escape it for the rest of your life. It's a very sad and miserable POV.