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07-02-2018, 04:32 PM | #26 | ||
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OK you know what, I may totally abandon this attempt to sort stuff out. As yes, context really is important and set rules do not really work. Ugh. I really don't know what to do here tbh
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07-02-2018, 04:32 PM | #27 | ||
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considering the demographic of this forum and where everyone leans politically in general nothing i have to say will have much impact and as such i prob won't gauge upon much political discussion here
i agree with the sentiment of the op but like political debates on forums ALWAYS end up messy. Its just how things are. People are very passionate about this kind of stuff. Theres a lot of subjectivity that gets perceived as objectivity and it can frustrate some people when they see an opinion they deem to be objectively wrong. you'll just never be able to tame discussions like this. Ive been on various forums and it always ends the same way. |
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07-02-2018, 04:32 PM | #28 | |||
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07-02-2018, 04:33 PM | #29 | |||
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07-02-2018, 04:34 PM | #30 | ||
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People are going to kick off no matter what really aren't they. So yeah, **** this idea of attempting to sort stuff, as it won;t work at all
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07-02-2018, 04:36 PM | #31 | |||
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07-02-2018, 04:37 PM | #32 | ||
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When we clamp down on posts like that we get accused of censorship
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07-02-2018, 04:37 PM | #33 | ||
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What I meant by addressing the OP was basically about this 'whataboutery' stuff. Like, going into a thread about Corbyn doing something and just posting 'but May is ridiculous' or 'what about Rees Mogg, he voted against gay marriage' when it has nothing at all to do with the thread and is not actually addressing whatever the OP is about, if this makes sense?
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07-02-2018, 04:40 PM | #35 | |||
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07-02-2018, 04:41 PM | #36 | ||
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as long as its within reason id doubt anyone but the person trying to deter from whatever is being discussed would have an issue |
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07-02-2018, 04:44 PM | #37 | |||
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07-02-2018, 04:47 PM | #38 | |||
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If moderating to the letter is going to be too difficult (which it sounds like it will be), I think stick to public warnings and thread locks.
When you're deleting threads and posts for simple rule breaks like being off-topic, you're leaving things open to interpretation. I think just a simple warning to tell people that that is not considered on-topic and to get back to the OP's post will suffice. The people who would be annoyed would be satisfied to see this public warning posted and well--if the thread crashes... then thread lock. The OP should have the most control I think. They should be able to say, this is the discussion I want to have--within these parameters... I don't want to discuss XYZ, I want to discuss this issue and the merits/non-merits of it. This creates an equal environment since people who are right-leaning can have as many threads as they'd like about conservative topics and so can left-leaning folk with social justice topics... everyone is happy, as long as they keep to the OP. Last edited by Maru; 07-02-2018 at 04:50 PM. |
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07-02-2018, 04:52 PM | #39 | ||
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I hit I Agree as I think Vicky's OP is a good step forward. I haven't read all the comments yet though, but basically I'm just for even - handedness and fairness all round really.
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07-02-2018, 04:56 PM | #40 | |||
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....hmmm, I’m not sure about the discussions having to be ‘more thought out with reasons given’ type thing...because sometimes a simple question could apply to the discussion...or a simple short statement, which would stare a view...also its 13+yrs forum age, so
maybe younger members might want to take part in discussions, but don’t feel yet, that they could give reasons...they might just think..’oh, I think that’s wrong’, but not really have gathered thoughts enough to post to expand on that...more an instinctive opinion they have...?...anyways, making too stead fast rules of post content, may achieve an opposite of putting of as well...it also could feel a little exclusive, maybe.. |
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07-02-2018, 04:58 PM | #41 | |||
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07-02-2018, 04:58 PM | #42 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...I actually like that some people might say...oh he’s rubbish or whatever and that’s that of that...and then others expand more and expand the debates...it makes for a great mix, I think...because we all are individuals, not only in our thoughts but how we convey them in type as well..
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07-02-2018, 04:58 PM | #43 | ||
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The issue here would be that then the person who has been deleted will argue back that their post should not have been removed, and then we have to either delete that comment, or explain further and then the thread would turn into 'the modding is unfair' arguments Honestly, this whole thing has made me really think I should just step back from moderating for a while. I really feel we are in a 'cant win' situation where half the forum agree with the deletions and stuff and half disagree
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07-02-2018, 05:00 PM | #44 | ||
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07-02-2018, 05:01 PM | #45 | |||
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07-02-2018, 05:03 PM | #46 | |||
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if members could vote to give mods a days ban, i think it could increase the fairness aspect
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07-02-2018, 05:03 PM | #47 | |||
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'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages' Last edited by Cherie; 07-02-2018 at 05:17 PM. |
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07-02-2018, 05:06 PM | #48 | ||
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Admin did ban me once, IIRC. Just to show me it could be done. Not sure if it was Josy or Ben (when he had admin powers)
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07-02-2018, 05:06 PM | #49 | |||
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i mean i think the debates section as a whole is a damn mess both in terms of its content and some occasional questionable moderating decisions but i also think the same applies to the main big brother forum as well? i think that everything will carry on as before regardless of what rules you may or may not introduce.
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07-02-2018, 05:06 PM | #50 | ||
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Might be fair if it also only applied to those who say something along the lines of leftie wanker. Waste of time when the mods still want to practice double standards. Last edited by Brillopad; 07-02-2018 at 05:14 PM. |
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