[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Depends what you mean by seduce, tbh. Flirting and asking someone out is fine. 'Seducing' by randomly grabbing their tit or telling them you would 'smash their backdoors in' whilst you have them cornered and unable to back away or other such rubbish...not fine.

So much gross behaviour is normalized. It can be a bit of a shock to actually think back over it. Throughout my adult life I have had perverts randomly touching me intimately a LOT of times, and I am pretty average looking too so I dread to think what goodlooking people get.

I would obviously not report stuff such as a guy rubbing his hardon on me 15 years back, but this does not mean I was any less sexually assaulted He could argue that it was a seduction technique too..I guess. And no doubt would, while people make excuses for such behaviour and say its nothing...and that people talking about stuff like this makes 'genuine' victims be taken less seriously, or whatever.

Yeah i used to get that stuff alot from women back in the partying days.Crotch getting grabbed and squeezed,arse getting grabbed regularly.They’d come in the blokes toilets and look at your D while you were pissing or even try and ‘hold it for you’.
Never really thought of it as getting assaulted back then.Was worst when it’s an older woman and you’re only 17 at the time.
Seems like it was kind of normalised then.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah i used to get that stuff alot from women back in the partying days.Crotch getting grabbed and squeezed,arse getting grabbed regularly.They’d come in the blokes toilets and look at your D while you were pissing or even try and ‘hold it for you’.
Never really thought of it as getting assaulted back then.Was worst when it’s an older woman and you’re only 17 at the time.
Seems like it was kind of normalised then.

Clubs are ****ing horrendous. I never thought much of it, as I say..back when I was going to them as it was pretty much assumed that you would be groped and it was part and parcel of going out.

It seems to be changing now, luckily. Though there is resistance to the change. Generally from the perverts in the first place who will insist that they are doing nothing wrong and its just 'banter' or whatever.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Clubs are ****ing horrendous. I never thought much of it, as I say..back when I was going to them as it was pretty much assumed that you would be groped and it was part and parcel of going out.

It seems to be changing now, luckily. Though there is resistance to the change. Generally from the perverts in the first place who will insist that they are doing nothing wrong and its just 'banter' or whatever.

Yeah.I think this is one reason it irks me when i see men getting all the blame and pretty much demonised.The hypocrisy of it.
Logically you’d think men were much worse due to testosterone but from what I remember the women were just as bad.
Obviously generally men are bigger and stronger but that doesn’t mean women aren’t just as bad.
The charity stuff i can believe it was men taking advantage of vulnerable females and it looks bad.Also Yes Weinstein was obviously a nasty bastard.
I just think it’s gone too far with women being seen as whiter than white and men are natural born predators etc.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah.I think this is one reason it irks me when i see men getting all the blame and pretty much demonised.The hypocrisy of it.
Logically you’d think men were much worse due to testosterone but from what I remember the women were just as bad.
Obviously generally men are bigger and stronger but that doesn’t mean women aren’t just as bad.
The charity stuff i can believe it was men taking advantage of vulnerable females and it looks bad.Also Yes Weinstein was obviously a nasty bastard.
I just think it’s gone too far with women being seen as whiter than white and men are natural born predators etc.

Didn't they even release a movie recently at the cinema's of a older woman having relationships with young guys. If it was about an older man with younger girls people would call it predatory .

It's called film stars don't die in Liverpool , i've never heard of the actress the story is about but i read something that described her as a female woody allen as she apparently took the virginity of her step son

I read a review online where they thought it was bad timing because of the whole harvey weinstein scandal .


You won't get men reporting sexual harassment from women , some men are even too embarrassed to report harassment from other men . I hate hypocrisy aswell .

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Didn't they even release a movie recently at the cinema's of a older woman having relationships with young guys. If it was about an older man with younger girls people would call it predatory .

Erm, if it was about an older guy and a young girl, the girl would be accused of being a gold digger and the guy would be 'lucky'

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm, if it was about an older guy and a young girl, the girl would be accused of being a gold digger and the guy would be 'lucky'

The man still get's called a pervert or a dirty old man , and the woman get's called Mrs Robinson or a cougar .

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah.I think this is one reason it irks me when i see men getting all the blame and pretty much demonised.The hypocrisy of it.
Logically you’d think men were much worse due to testosterone but from what I remember the women were just as bad.
Obviously generally men are bigger and stronger but that doesn’t mean women aren’t just as bad.

Men don't get 'all the blame' but male people do do it much more often, and generally to a worse extent also. I have never, ever, seen anyone deny that some women are perverts too. But its always argued against, and women doing it is always brought up when male people assaulting is mentioned.

Even this thread, about a man being sexually inappropriate has turned into 'women are just as bad'.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Men don't get 'all the blame' but male people do do it much more often, and generally to a worse extent also. I have never, ever, seen anyone deny that some women are perverts too. But its always argued against, and women doing it is always brought up when male people assaulting is mentioned.

Even this thread, about a man being sexually inappropriate has turned into 'women are just as bad'.

Of course, did you ever doubt it wouldn't?

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Men don't get 'all the blame' but male people do do it much more often, and generally to a worse extent also. I have never, ever, seen anyone deny that some women are perverts too. But its always argued against, and women doing it is always brought up when male people assaulting is mentioned.

Even this thread, about a man being sexually inappropriate has turned into 'women are just as bad'.

It's only been brought up because it's been mentioned that women in clubs are touchy feely just like the men , and i used it as an example because not many men would report it .

It's not taking away sexual assault done to females, plus females assault other females .